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LadyLeigh (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:12 AM Original message |
If you supported the Libyan war on "humanitarian principle" you supported the Iraq war also. Period. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. We already discussed this here: |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. This should have ended this thread. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. we did not invade libya. never. we invaded iraq. BIG difference. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. +1 |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. +2 nt |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Apparently some lack the ability to distinguish those differences |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. +3 |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. -1...both were about oil, plain and simple...the difference you note makes no |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
5. Libya asked for our help... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. not exactly |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I was speaking to what I believe to be the PNAC inspired war... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. well don't say nobody was asking for our help. |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I'll let you have the last word... (updated) Changed my mind. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. We didn't help install either of those. |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. My suggestion is that you do a bit of research. |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. ...via the UN |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I, too, believe there is a difference between the two. nt |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
40. What about the Iraqi people screaming for our help, ready to throw flowers |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
56. Some of its citizens did, and some Iraqis did. That's no refutation. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
8. Where was the popular revolt in Iraq? |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. The popular revolt was in the north after the First Iraq war, which |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
9. No. |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
11. If you supported World War II, you supported the Vietnam War too. Period. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. No, not really. |
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Permanut (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
16. And an apple is EXACTLY like an orange.. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Herm, is that you? :) |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
21. Hey, haven't you gotten it yet? |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Nailed it |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. +1 |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
23. If you are against removing this evil dictator, then you love all evil dictators. |
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TBMASE (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Well, if our policy is to remove evil dictators |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Right over your head I guess. |
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TBMASE (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I'm saying we have no coherent policy and certainly not one that's consistant |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I think he's been very consistent. |
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TBMASE (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. They had a stable government. When this thing goes bad, as they usually do |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. "They had a stable government" . ...That's really the best you could come up with? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. What are you, a Saddam lover? |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. I suspect many centrist including Obama did support the Iraq war |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. You see today's announcement? |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
61. even the neocons talked about leaving by this time |
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ikri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
30. The closest parallels |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
63. Agreed. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. that's silly n/t |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
37. It is a shame that there are such an enormous number of unrecs |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
38. Your logic is flawed. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
39. No one was going to intervene in Libya until the UN authorized it. That's as it should be. |
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War Horse (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
41. I doubt you can read people's minds |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. I wish I could REC this 100000x |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
45. if you opposed any involvement in Libya you opposed involvement in WWII |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. We were attacked in World War 2, and then Hitler declared war, saving us the decision |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. We were attacked by Japan, and Hitler "declaring war" didn't actually DO anything to us. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. No, you're completely wrong: Japan attacked us, Hitler declared war on us, and we WERE vulnerable. |
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BlueCheese (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. Well... |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
47. If we had been able to stop Saddam Hussein IN THE ACT, I would have always supported that. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
49. I like apples and oranages... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
50. Who made you the ruler of all things? The fact is that anyone can agree with anything they want |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
51. IOKIODI: It's okay if Obama does it. |
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thucythucy (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
53. Don't you think it's a tad arrogant |
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thucythucy (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
55. If you opposed the no fly zone in Libya, you opposed bombing the tracks to Auschwitz also. Period. |
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AngkorWot (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
57. Is it even possible to make less sense? |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. ... |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-11 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
59. Hit-and-run newbie bullshit. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
64. Disagree. Iraq was not in the middle of a revolution. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
65. Meh! |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
66. Keep spinning false equivalencies.. |
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