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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:48 PM
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It's time for the OWS meme to die...
I don't want to take anything away from Occupy Wall Street. They were the first, they were the biggest.

But the real, the surprising news is how fast and far the Occupation has spread.

OWS no longer really applies to anything but the actual Occupation in Liberty Square.

I humbly suggest that we refer to it as the Occupation, rather than OWS. It's easy, more accurate, and more all-encompassing.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:54 PM
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1. "From this day on, the official language of San Marcos will be Swedish. Silence!
In addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half-hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside so we can check. Furthermore, all children under 16 years old are now... 16 years old!"

:shrug:
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:56 PM
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3. thank you for a delightful non-sequitur! /nt
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dogknob Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 07:44 PM
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12. BANANAS!
Simultaneously the funniest and most depressing movie about revolution.

:bounce::rofl::bounce:
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 08:30 PM
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15. And unfortunately the truest. n/t
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:56 PM
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2. I like that idea - though...
I wish we could come up with something like "Return to Fairness" - to make it clear exactly what was wrong and what needs to happen.
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:56 PM
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4. Because the economy of the entire world
lives or dies by the actions of Wall St. I think all "Occupies" are Wall St. based.
Cheers
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:59 PM
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6. London, Beijing, Tokyo, Berlin, Rome *might* just have a bit of a problem with that...
thinking the entire global economy is controlled by Wall Street is both parochial and naive.

cheers.
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 07:37 PM
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10. I beg to disagree.
I have the privelege to view the situation from a very distant place.
My observation is that the US, Wall St essentially, is the hub.
BTW, I really hope to be wrong on that.
Cheers
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:59 PM
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5. I disagree - Wall Street is the ideological focus for the 1%.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-11 06:00 PM by iris27
The other Occupy sites have sprung up out of solidarity and convenience - much easier to get to your local downtown than to NYC. They are good because they show the national/global scale of our anger. But when Occupy groups are camped outside of their local City Hall, it's not really specific positions or ordinances put in place by that city government that they're there to protest against. Each Occupy group is about national and international policies that benefit the banksters over average working people. It's Main Street against Wall Street.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 07:57 PM
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14. I agree that it's the current focus, I disagree that it's the correct focus...
Of the 147 "Hyper-Connected" Corporations that truly run the world, "Wall-Street" accounts for about 1/3.

The evil fucktards in Japan, England, Germany, France, India, China, and fucking Pago-Pago are equally to blame, IMO.

The real obscenities we have to deal with?

"Corporations are people": (this is pure Supreme Court)

"Money = Speech" (once again, the Supremes)

"Wealth = Power" (this one is planet-wide, and nothing new)
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yoyossarian Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 01:08 AM
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17. Obviously, the Supreme Court is in the same pocket as the politicians...
That is, big money... and as far as the bankers in other countries go, I believe that was just addressed quite loudly and resonantly last weekend.

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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 06:03 PM
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7. I've taken to referring to the larger movement as simply Occupy.
No announcement needed, nor explanations. People grasp it intrinsically and fall into the same verbiage and outlook. People assume it refers as shorthand to whichever Occupy is most cogent to the discussion at hand. It's close enough to the term-to-date as to be glossed over thoughtlessly by most people as referring what they called "Occupy Wall Street" yesterday. They, in-short, fill-in the "Wall Street" or "DC" or "Madrid" or whatever mentally as whatever logically-elides.

"Occupy" is better than "Occupation" is better than any larger wholesale change as a result. Least mental disruption towards "Occupy".
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 06:06 PM
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8. I prefer the 99%. It is inclusive and bonds us together with people
who are voting against their own best economic interests and should be voting against oligarchy. I like that togetherness. I think it could be catcy.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 06:24 PM
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9. I'm OK with 99% or Occupy or Occupation. But my point stands...
OWS is a meme that doesn't resonate, and doesn't truly describe the movement.

In evidence, I'll offer the fact that not a single local Occupation has identified itself as "OWS:(insert city's name)"

As anecdotal evidence, I have not heard a single activist locally refer to the movment as "OWS". That seems to be reserved to MSM, which makes them immediately suspect in my book.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 07:41 PM
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11. I prefer the term "The Outraged"
Edited on Fri Oct-21-11 07:42 PM by meow2u3
English translation for "indignados."

That, or the POM--pissed off majority!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 07:48 PM
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13. If wevare to be technical
It is the Aril 15 movement when the Indignados started this in Spain...and in Mexico it is referred as Los indignados. For some silly reason it don't play well in peoria that way.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 08:45 PM
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16. Nope. Much of the attention must still be focused on our corrupted financial institutions and
their poisonous influence on our democracy. If anything, that is their (tacit) demand. A sharp focus on capitalism & corporations. The words "Wall Street" maintain that focus.

Also, uch of the hard work is still be done in NYC.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 02:24 AM
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18. Well said. Wall St. is both a real and a symbolic manifestation of what we are
Edited on Sat Oct-22-11 02:25 AM by Zorra
struggling against.

Occupy Wall Street.



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