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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:01 AM
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The Neocons Are Coming!
Oct 19, 2011 6:42 PM EDT
No, no, no, writes Leslie H. Gelb, to the neoconservatives once again rising from the undead to lead America to another war, bigger Pentagon budgets, and a bizarre blame game over Iraq.


They’re back! The neoconservatives who gave America clueless, unpaid-for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, plus a near doubling of military expenditures, during the Bush years have risen from their political graves. Someone, maybe a media tiring of President Obama’s interminable plight, pulled the stake from their heart. Now they’ve returned to the op-ed pages, the talk shows, the think-tank discussions, and the advisory ranks of Republican presidential candidates.

Once again, the neoconservatives mount their steeds. They hint that we need another war or at least a little military strike, this time against Iran. They’re pushing to increase military spending; the China threat, you know. They’re also trying to further weaken Obama by charging that he’s losing Iraq to Iran by not keeping U.S. forces there (without mentioning, of course, that Iraq is throwing them out).

I find it hard to believe that any of these new tricks will work, but I have come never to underestimate the neoconservatives, that formidable group mostly of Republicans who sprang from the loins of the great Democratic senator from Washington, Henry “Scoop” Jackson. They are very smart and far tougher than their liberal and moderate opponents. They write and speak with far greater simplicity and force. (Democrats just must make 17 complicated points about everything.) They are always relentless and on the attack. The only ones to stand up to them effectively have been other Republicans, specifically the best of the foreign-policy realists such as George Shultz, James Baker, Brent Scowcroft, and George H.W. Bush.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/19/leslie-h-gelb-argues-that-neocons-like-bill-kristol-are-back-to-warmongering.html
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:05 AM
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1. They are salivating at the thought
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:12 AM
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2. The Neocons, Corporatists, Libertarians and Teabaggers are the "Republicans"
of today. The Neocons joined the Repub. Party about 40 years ago, worked
their way up, usurped the power of the old-timer Republican leaders and
kicked them out. But the Neocons were smart enough to keep the Republican
name so as to continue getting the votes of the old-timer Republican masses,
most of whom are not even aware of the coup. They still think they are
voting "Republican."

Each time we use the word "Republican," we are helping them with their
fraud, and we are helping them with their cause -- to fool the people for
their own profit.

The real Republican Party has ceased to exist long ago.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:24 AM
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3. Iran would not be the seeming push-over that Iraq and Afghanistan
Edited on Sat Oct-22-11 10:25 AM by coalition_unwilling
were. Iran has 1,000,000 soldiers in its army, FFS (and 80,000+ in its Revolutionary Guards). If America wishes to destroy itself, it will do so in the sands of Persia.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:04 AM
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6. I fear some type
of false flag operation involving Iran. And then WW3 would begin. Certainly would solve some of TPTB's 'problems.'
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:27 AM
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4. The NeoCons never went away. Their message has been carried
daily on Faux News.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 10:39 AM
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5. Tough assed talkers it took a (so called) liberal Democrat to get things done.
The Neo Cons cannot deliver effective belligerence
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:11 AM
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7. Scoop Jackson wasn't "great", the Neocons aren't "very smart" or "tough", and the other Republicans
are just the "nice cops" who actually run the show. They're all war criminals responsible for destroying this and several other countries. The Daily Beast isn't a very good blog.
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