What sort of liberal test should people pass before they identify as liberal when taking a poll?

[LoZoccolo]

[Ohio Joe]

1. None

[wakemewhenitsover]

2. K&R -- Good question.

I imagine that, like me, you've seen poll results for "liberals" that don't follow the old school (i.e. real, in my book) definition of the word... the Roosevelt-inspired meaning of the word.

[LoZoccolo]

4. Would the Roosevelt definition include support of internment camps?

[William769]

14. How about killing U.S. citizens without a trial?

Should that be there also?

[TheWraith]

21. Newsflash: it did.

There were a not inconsiderable number of Americans of German descent who signed up to fight for Nazi Germany. There's a famous story from Donald Malarkey, of Easy Company fame, talking about how during D-Day he ran across a group of German POWs in Normandy and was shocked to hear one of them address him in English; the young man was a native of the US whose family had returned to Germany at the outbreak of the war, and he'd signed up to fight in 1941. It was dramatized in the miniseries based on Easy Company's exploits, "Band of Brothers."

Those people were still US citizens, but they were also enemy troops.

[wakemewhenitsover]

20. No. I believe Roosevelt's support of internment camps...

...did not contribute to the liberal tradition. However, Roosevelt did make many other contributions to the liberal tradition.

I was under the impression that you posed your question to make a point, but, upon reading your glib "gotcha" response, I'm not so sure.

[Rex]

3. Cheese.

[LoZoccolo]

5. That's almost as bad as whether or not they drive a Volvo.

[Rex]

6. Shrimp & white wine.

[emulatorloo]

7. A DU purity test.

[Name removed]

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[onehandle]

9. 'Free Mumia' should be tattooed on your forehead.

Otherwise, you are no librul.

[Fumesucker]

10. "Did you or did you not support George W Bush" would be a good starting question..n/t

[LoZoccolo]

13. At what point in time?

[Rex]

17. At anytime?

That would be a good question.

[WinkyDink]

26. Excuse me?! From the day Bar birthed the Little Boots!

[Kennah]

11. Other than refusing to pee in a cup?

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Weed legalization.

I mean, really, at this point, fuck the people who are still against it.

[randome]

18. Sorry, Warren.

You're not my type.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. $40 Billion a year to keep consenting adults from smoking a relatively benign plant

not including costs of incarceration...



you're probably not my type, either.

[ellisonz]

15. Where was Barack Obama born?

If you don't know the answer - you're not a liberal.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

16. There's no test. However,

...writing an OP that consists of 3 or more sentences that all go together to make a single idea would tend to make people think you're smarter, which in turn gives you a better statistical chance of being a liberal.

[randome]

19. Possessing a user name that consists of more than just a string of random letters.

[animato]

23. You love Michael Moore?

Rachel?

[Number23]

24. lol You are loving this aren't you??

Judging by the answers so far, no real answer has come forth yet.

Considering the number of people who DEMAND to know how liberals are identified when polls after polls show strong liberal support (wonder if they'd care how liberals were identified if the polls showed him losing liberals??), I find that a bit surprising.

[WinkyDink]

27. I answered. But then, maybe others find the question ridiculous, and responded in kind.

[WinkyDink]

25. Wanting way higher taxes on the upper income levels would be a huge start.

[Douglas Carpenter]

28. FDR's Second Bill of Rights

Franklin Delano Roosevelt proposed a Second Bill of Rights in a speech on January 11, 1944. This was an economic Bill of Rights.


In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.

For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZ5bx9AyI4&feature=related

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