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Segami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:42 PM Original message |
The PARDON That RUINED American Law |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Tonight I'm watching the original David Frost interviews with Nixon. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Another great thing to watch is the 1960 Debate between Pres Kennedy |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
56. "Even Nixon didn't sweat this much"... |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. I remember the very day this happened. I knew at that moment that our political system was bought |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Kissinger saw to it that Ford was VP - and then he saw to |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Kissinger is one slimy fuck I'd like to see in general population. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
69. The fact that Kissenger and Cheney and the Bushes |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. + a gazillion plus 50 million times infinity n/t |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
89. well said |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
77. A Cambodian prison would probably best serve the interests of |
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Grins (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
91. Or Cambidian |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. And now Kissinger is one of Obama's advisors -- !!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
43. What amazed me is how they worked to redeem Nixon -- and public allegedly bought it!! ????? |
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oldhippydude (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
80. yep |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
64. It was w/ ford that rummy and darth |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I do to, and I was beyond angry. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. I remember it too and I'm still pissed.. |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm so excited, I'm going to see Glenn and Noam Chomsky this weekend. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I am so jealous! I do plan on catching Greenwald at his event in San Francisco. |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It's going to be filmed for C-Span, I'll wave to you :-) n/t |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Will it be carried live? Or does it have an air date? n/t |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. I assume it will be on BookTV. If so, not live and no air date yet. n/t |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. TY. n/t |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. lol! I'll be watching! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. What C-span program? What time? Will look for it --/ I SEE THE ANSWER NOW !! |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Kicked and recommended. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. Gerald Ford— who, it was widely believed.... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
73. Which is why |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Thank you for that. Reminds me that I accused G. Gordon Liddy of treason when |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. But both Ollie and Liddy have been substantially rewarded, haven't they? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. I'm a lapsed Buddhist because of shit like that (the evil being |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Well, all major religions once taught reincarnation ..... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. Sounds like a plan. I'm game too, but it will have to be a |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. Recommended. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. K & R !!! |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. A well deserved rec for this |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
14. Ford is burning in Hell for that pardon. |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. ... and that is in no way adequate. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Ford was also an active player in the cover up of coup on JFK --- |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. Pardons can only be applied to persons convicted! |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. GHW Bush pardoned Cap the Knife Weinberger before trial.. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. The day after he said, "if I'm going down, I'm not going down alone." |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. We are all coincidence theorists on DU... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
50. "coincidence theorists" |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
82. Yes, yes, it's all coincidence. |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
21. Clearly, it set the trend for two term (R) presidents to commit felonies |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Actually . . . |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
90. I agree with everything you have said |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #90 |
102. Thank you -- and agree re IRV .... |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
96. you lost me at "the coup on JFK" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. What do you know of LBJ? Did you consider him an honest man? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
99. Great post, there, Defend and Protect. Wish everyone on DU |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. I know MANY could do it as well or better --- |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
97. One thing that has been mentioned over the years is that Nixon |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. I've also certainly head that .... but can't really remember |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. If I had to stick a date on it |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. I'm gonna get flamed for this |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Deleted message |
Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. It's not a leftist dream. It was the American Dream at some point. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. The Founders referred to conspiracy by President and VP ... and in that event .... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
100. When did they discuss this? Was this in the Constitutional Convention? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. OK -- a friend sent me the info ... here's what I have on it -- |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. You weren't alive when that happened, were you? nt |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
63. Silly. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. Awsome Post...as someone who lived through Nixon Pardon and said..."This is against RULE OF LAW!" |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 06:24 AM Response to Reply #29 |
54. PLUS ONE! |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
74. Sorrow, |
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LuckyLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. Ford's statement "we all have played a part" makes my blood boil, just as it did back then. |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
60. He also said he made no pardon / immunity deal to become VP - I call bullshit on that one too. n/t |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
31. He's responsible for wrecking health care, too. |
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orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
32. K & R |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
36. Ford was just another RW coup --!! Ford's career was funded by CIA ..... |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #36 |
61. How can you say that about such an esteemed member of the Warren Commission? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. Amazing what people don't know ... isn't it !!! |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
37. Flame me if you want but Gerry Ford put the nation ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Ford, like Nixon, was a RW'er who went as far as he could at the time --- and the PARDON |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
39. "Impeachment is off the table" rings a bell, too: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. +1000% -- kr |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 05:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. +1001% n/t |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
41. Nixon was a corrupt piece of crap |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. And fuck their apologists. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
88. +1 |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
95. Yes! |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-11 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
45. Political pardons of the rich and well-placed |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
49. I would agree with this. It started the "look forward, not |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
52. I've been saying this for years. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
55. which gave rise to the over used catch phrase, "America couldn't survive, blah blah blah..." |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Repackaged today as "Toobig to fail." |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Yup. nt |
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jobendorfer (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
62. The failure extends far beyond just Nixon himself |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
65. In this case they are right - lack of punishment means the lack of |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
66. Yeah, because the elite weren't avoiding responsibility before 1974... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
67. Political loftiness in society is an impediment to justice, ergo the lofty have legal immunity |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
68. VIDEO: Ford Pardons Nixon - September 8, 1974 |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
70. I profoundly regret buying into the whole Nixon pardon thing, thinking |
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Segami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Back then, we were told “ Our long National Nightmare was Over " and with that con, |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. hmph! |
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Segami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. " Moving Forward " is code for ' you watch my back and I'll watch yours '. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Amazing the "good guy" RW propaganda which surrounded Ford -- !!! |
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Segami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. " If you Repeat a LIE often enough, it becomes "......ding, ding, ding, now you may eat! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. "Catapulting the propaganda" 24/7 -- !! :) |
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Tom Ripley (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
78. I was disgusted at all the accolades heaped upon Jerry The Errrand Boy |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. +1000% ---- |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
84. I remember when Ford died... |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
93. An excellent OP |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
101. .... |
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MerryBlooms (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
108. Excellent reminder, thanks. n/t |
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