Cheney Considering Heart Transplant

[Contrary1]

Former Vice President Dick Cheney said he has not decided whether to seek a heart transplant for what he called his “end-stage heart failure” but said he will make that decision “at some point.”

<big Dick quote snip here> Obama, one term, gitmo, Bush, terror, 9/11, more terror, blah, blah, blah... And, also, too, terror."

Regarding his heart, Mr. Cheney said that he might be able to live for years with the new device implanted in his chest.

“The technology’s gotten better and better and we’ve gotten more and more experience with people living with this technology,” he said. “So I’ll have to make a decision at some point whether or not I want to go for a transplant. But we haven’t addressed that yet.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/cheney-considering-heart-transplant/?hp

[SharonRB]

1. You mean he's thinking of getting a heart?

After all, he doesn't have one to replace.

[fatbuckel]

82. I'm sure everyone in the US has that choice.

[Unrepentant Fenian]

2. I won't be attending his funeral, but I'm certainly in favor of it ! nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

3. I hope he doesn't pick me.

I hate zombies.

[Arugula Latte]

31. Don't draw attention to yourself

or else he'll send his flying monkeys your way

[babylonsister]

4. I'll bet the new device isn't working all that well; why else would

he even consider a transplant? :nopity:

[marmar]

5. Not to be cruel, but if Cheney had the insurance that the vast majority of Americans have.....

..... His insurer would have cut him off a long time ago.

[madinmaryland]

62. He would have been dead by the age of 40. nt

[Missy Vixen]

6. Isn't he too old to qualify for a transplant?

It would seem to me that a heart might go to someone else with a longer life expectancy.

IMHO. YMMV.

[csziggy]

9. He wil use his money to buy one

Even if it is not legal, he's got the money to literally get away with murder.

[dsc]

11. age 70 is the usual cutoff

My dad is 75 and in similar shape to Cheney. He hasn't gotten the artificial heart though, due to not wanting it.

[Junkdrawer]

20. "The age of 55 years has traditionally been the accepted upper limit"....

Age limit is perhaps the most controversial aspect of candidate selection for heart transplantation. The age of 55 years has traditionally been the accepted upper limit beyond which heart transplantation should not be considered.4 However, with advances in surgical and immunosupression techniques, older patients are often considered for transplantation. Heart transplantation in patients as old as 72 years of age have been reported.5 However, a study comparing carefully selected heart transplant recipients greater than 65 years of age to those between the ages of 55 and 64, show that although survival is similar, the number of hospital days and infections during post-transplant year one is significantly greater for the older group. In addition, patients greater than 65 years of age had more severe functional limitations after transplantation and had difficulty returning to full functional capacity. Patients between the ages of 60 and 65 should be carefully scrutinized, because the incidence of co-morbidities that would limited life expectancy or quality of life increases with age. These co-morbidities include cerebrovascular disease, peripheral vascular disease, renal disease, hepatic disease, pulmonary disease, osteoporosis, malignancy, benign prostatic hypertrophy, diverticulosis, obesity, loss of mental acuity and deceased rehabilitation potential.


http://www.dcmsonline.org/jax-medicine/2002journals/Feb2002/transplant.htm

[Joe the Revelator]

23. That is no longer the case.

My father is 62 and has been told he will be eligible into his 70s as long as there aren't any other problems (ie cancer,aids etc

[valerief]

21. How rich and powerful is your dad? nt

[dsc]

29. Not at all

though Medicare and the Veterans along with his insurance through teachers retirement would pay for the heart pump and presumedly would have paid for a heart transplant had he been younger.

[valerief]

44. Well, Cheney can get whatever he wants from whomever he wants whenever he wants.

He has no cutoffs. He's one of the elite. Well, he's a high-ranking agent of the elite.

I wish your dad luck!

[Kennah]

40. Actually, no, not according to UNOS ...

... since Cheney donated his at age 25. Normally he would be excluded because of age, but since he's been without one for decades, UNOS says the rules dictate he can get a new one.

[Greybnk48]

7. Is he even a viable candidate? I would think he would

be on the bottom of the recipient list at his age and taking into account what a retched scumbag he is. :patriot:

[Joe the Revelator]

25. His age is fine for a transplant.

[Dulcinea]

35. Doesn't he have other health problems?

It seems that would disqualify him, too.

[Joe the Revelator]

Not that aren't related to the heart failure.

[bobbolink]

77. His vast fortune cancels out being a wretched scumbag.

[hlthe2b]

8. Damn... I was taught not to think nasty thoughts of those suffering...

So, every time I hear Cheney's damned name, I get to experience at least two minutes of self-recrimination. Maybe Bush* and his ilck have it right. Just ditch the conscience and any self-reflection, blame everyone else for what goes wrong and take no responsibility. Certainly seems to work for them, letting them live damn near forever at our expense. :mad: But in honor of my late Mother, here it goes: I wish no pain or suffering to come to Cheney or anyone else (but especially anyone else ;) )

[madmax]

28. My Mom, too. Don't speak ill of the dead and

don't wish bad to anyone. These Mommma things are so damn hard! Mom!

[niyad]

48. I just wish him everything he deserves

[hlthe2b]

55. Ahh, there's the ticket...

gotta love a loophole. ;)

[DJ13]

10. From a live or dead donor?

[katnapped]

12. So who will be...

The person that gets to be shot in the face and have the privelege of donating theirs to him?

[TheCowsCameHome]

13. Maybe Halliburton has a corroded old pump they aren't using.

Other than that, You're SOL.

[Canuckistanian]

26. Maybe they can make one out of asbestos

They seem to have a lot of it.

[Devil_Fish]

14. What a Dick: "I can live for years with this artificial heart, but I may want a real heart just so I

can make sure that some one else dosn't get one.

[Skittles]

15. let's hope he gets a bleeding heart

[mmonk]

17. +1

[Botany]

16. Sorry Dick it will not work ...

... no viable tissue to graft it onto.

[MuseRider]

18. Time for all of us to get out our organ donation

forms and clarify who NOT to let have our heart!

[bobbolink]

78. You don't thiink a minor detail like that would stop him, do you?

When he has had the power to kill millions, do you think one small addendum on a little card would change anything?

Sing along with me.... "Whatever Dickie wants, Dickie gets...."

[valerief]

19. Hide your kids. nt

[annabanana]

22. But he's done so well for all these years without one. What would

he want with one now?

[AC_Mem]

24. I'm sure he has enough money to buy a heart

but if he has end stage cardiovascular disease, it goes beyond just replacing the heart. I took care of my dad through his end stage cardio issues. It involves all the arteries, veins, etc. eventually. The issues that make the heart fail are not limited to that organ; they affect the entire body eventually.

[Joe the Revelator]

27. Some in this thread need to get their head's straight....

Seriously, I'm ashamed to be associated with some of you grave dancers.

[Junkdrawer]

30. When Cheney dies there will be two lines.....

One will have those that morn his passing. The other will be those waiting to piss on his grave.

I'll be in the long line.

[Joe the Revelator]

32. I guess that makes you feel better about yourself?

I wish death on no man.

[Arugula Latte]

37. Cheney sure wished death on lots of people

I mean, we're talking tens of thousands of people

[Joe the Revelator]

38. Let those who fight monsters beware.....

[Lint Head]

39. Cheney didn't wish. He made sure it was carried out.

[niyad]

52. I just wish him everything he deserves.

and, by the way, there generally has to BE a grave before one can dance on it.

considering the untold death and suffering this man has caused all around the world, I think the people here are being pretty restrained.

[Joe the Revelator]

56. I caught your "joke" the first time you posted it...

I think is strange that we spend a week calling for the other side to be more civil, and then the first chance we get, we turn into ghouls.

[niyad]

58. what "joke"?? that is my actual wish for everyone. interesting that you assumed I meant something

awful by it. for all I know, the universe thinks he deserves to win mega-millions.

don't read into things you don't understand.

[Joe the Revelator]

60. Yes you are so much smarter than me....

With your half ass hateful attempts at wit. Why not post it a couple more times in this thread?

[niyad]

68. you really do not get it. that wish is not a joke, which, apparently, you still do not understand.

I will repeat this yet again. this is my standard wish for everyone. it is up to the universe to decide what people deserve.

it always amuses me that people with clear consciences will respond with "why, thank you."

people without clear conscience ALWAYS respond, 'why would you be so mean"

if you choose to see it as anything else, as you sit here and tell people how vile they are, that is your choice, and not my problem.

smarter than you? have absolutely no idea, and don't really care one way or the other.

[Joe the Revelator]

69. No, I get that you use it as a weasel statement.

Nobody thinks that cheney is a good person. You don't seem to get that part of MY argument.

[niyad]

71. it isn't a weasel statement., despite your lack of comprehension. it is my wish for everyone,

including you.

actually, there are people who think he is a good person, quite a few, in fact.

[Joe the Revelator]

72. Do you?

[Junkdrawer]

54. There are very, very few whose death I would welcome. n/t

[beac]

80. How about not wishing him death, but able to think of literally THOUSANDS of people who

deserve a new heart before he should even be considered for one?

Cheney thinks the government shouldn't provide health care, but he's been kept alive by Americans' tax dollars for years. Maybe it's time for his actions to match his professed beliefs. If he's so against "socialized medicine" he should refuse to let us keep paying for his care. Let him try to buy insurance on the open market like a "real American."

[Arugula Latte]

34. DU should just put two forums in place now -- Grave Pissing and Non-Grave Pissing

:D

[pinboy3niner]

49. I've only glanced at a few comments here

As far as I'm concerned, if he meets the transplant criteria and goes through the same procedures as everyone else, I don't have a problem.

Some may suspect he's getting favorable treatment, which would be a problem.

In any case, grave dancing would be wholly inappropriate and would not be tolerated here.

[GaYellowDawg]

61. I don't want to dance on his grave.

I want to piss on it.

[Joe the Revelator]

66. Glad to see our high ground on civility lasted a little over a week.

[lumberjack_jeff]

65. Every morning for five years a man visited the news stand, picked up the paper...

... and with obvious annoyance put it back down.

One day the newsstand owner asked the guy what he was looking for.

"Obituary" the man answered.
"But you never open the paper to turn to that section."
"The son of a bitch I'm looking for will be on the front page."

[Odin2005]

75. That old monster does not deserve a heart transplant.

If that makes me a "grave dancer" than so be it. There are young people with their whole lives ahead of them who are more deserving of that heart.

[KansasVoter]

83. Wow, did you miss the last 8 years from that asshole? ANYONE deserves a donated heart more than him!

[MindandSoul]

33. I understand that sometime they use pig hearts for temporary transplants!

That would be a good match!

[Lint Head]

36. Not when a real human being needs one.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

41. He can get a pig heart

poor pig

[opihimoimoi]

42. I hope he finds out his new heart came from the lil ole lady from Pasadena

which would explain his new persona of being kind and considerate for a change....

his mind wanna do evil but his new heart forces benevolence instead....

[verges]

43. Isn't it nice that Cheyney gets to make that choice?

Unlike the 98 people who had that option yanked away in Arizona.

[Texasgal]

45. he most likely is on the TOP of list

Fuck people that have no insurance or people that are medicare/medicaid. He deserves that HEART!

[Raine]

46. Cheney has managed all this time without one

it would be a shame to waste a perfectly good heart on him, let someone else have it.

[MoonRiver]

47. He'll get the best heart that money can buy.

Probably from a Chinese in jail on trumped up charges, who is conveniently shot in the head to protect his valuable innards.

[11 Bravo]

50. If he's the donor, I'm all for it.

[Motown_Johnny]

51. Gosh, Maybe some end of life counseling would be helpful !!!!!

[malaise]

57. Can I volunteer

for the end of life counseling :evilgrin:

[hunter]

53. The good twin always has to go into hiding...

... when the evil twin goes looking for a heart.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

59. Hailing Mr. Bean, we have a package for you to deliver!!! n't

[Xipe Totec]

63. Heart of a Dog

Pretty much Cheney's autobiography, really.

Heart of a Dog (Russian: Собачье сердце, Sobach'e serdtse), a novel by Mikhail Bulgakov, is a biting satire of the New Soviet man written in 1925 at the height of the NEP period (New Economic Policy), when Communism appeared to be weakening in the Soviet Union.




Moscow, 1925. While foraging for trash one winter day, a stray dog is found by a cook and scalded with boiling water. Lying forlorn in a doorway, the dog awaits his end awash in thoughts of self-pity. To his surprise, successful surgeon Filip Filippovich Preobrazhensky arrives and offers the dog a piece of sausage. Overjoyed, the dog follows Filip back to his flat, where he is given the name, Sharik.

At the house, Sharik gets to know Dr. Preobrazhensky's household, which includes the medical student Bormental and two female servants. Despite the Professor's blatant anti-communism, his frequent medical treatment of the CPSU leadership makes him untouchable. As a result, he refuses to decrease his seven room flat and treats the Bolsheviks on the housing committee, lead by Shvonder, with unveiled contempt. Impressed by his new master, Sharik slips easily into the role of, "a gentleman's dog."

After several days, one of the servants begins taking Sharik for walks through Moscow. Preening in his new collar, Sharik is unmoved by the taunts of a passing stray. After his health improves, the Professor at last reveals his real intentions in taking in Sharik. As the laboratory is prepped, he orders Sharik locked in the bathroom.

As a seething Sharik plots to again destroy the Professor's stuffed owl, the door opens and he is dragged by the scruff of the neck into the lab. There, he is sedated and an operation begins. As Bormental assists, the Professor trepans Sharik's skull and gives him a human pituitary gland. Sharik's torso is also opened and he is given human testicles. Only repeated injections of adrenaline prevent the dog from dying on the operating table.

During the weeks after the operation, the household is stunned as Sharik begins transforming into an incredibly unkempt human. After building an alliance with Shvonder the former canine is granted papers under the absurd name, "Poligraf Poligrafovich Sharikov."

In the aftermath, the Professor and Bormental patiently attempt to teach Sharikov basic ettiquette. Instead, Sharikov mocks the idea of manners as relics of Tsarism. He insists that it is better to behave, "naturally." As a result, Sharikov curses in front of women, refuses to shave, and dresses like a complete slob.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_a_Dog

[get the red out]

64. He should go straight for the Darth Vader suit

He should go straight for the Darth Vader suit to keep him alive, every time I hear him speak I expect to hear the mechanical breathing between sentences.

[Junkdrawer]

67. I find your lack of faiith...disturbing...n/t

[Liberal_in_LA]

70. why the neg recs? for the Cheney or what?

[Turbineguy]

73. Somebody!

Please die, so Cheney can live!

:sarcasm:

[Odin2005]

74. a 70yo has no business looking for a transplant when it could go to a 20yo with...

...his or her whole life yet to live. Dickhead getting a heart is a theft from a younger person who is more deserving.

[Joe the Revelator]

76. A life is a life. That 20yo could walk out the door of a hospital and get hit by a bus

If a 70yo has a life expectancy over 5 years save for heart failure, then he/she has every right to be on the list.

[thereismore]

79. I'm pretty sure he can go to Cuba and get it there for free. nt

[liberal N proud]

81. Whatever you do, don't go hunting with Dick

You could be candidate 1