pics of Oakland cops crushing the camp

[Liberal_in_LA]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/25/BAUB1LLTC9.DTL

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1. Recommend

[HowHasItComeToThis]

105. ALL THIS IS THE RESULT OF BUSH AND ROVE FASCISM

[Lorien]

112. And what is Obama doing to put an end to it?

Nothing.

[savannah43]

114. Not only is he not stopping it, he's advancing it.

So this is what the new "Storm Troopers" look like. And that woman trooper in the second shot should take that smile off her face. I hope she's not somebody's mother.

[Jim_Shorts]

116. Obama's solution is to put a cap on monthly student loan payments

That will stop the tear gas. What else can he do? (cough cough)

[Arctic Dave]

2. Interesting. White cops ousting black man.

I would love to see more pics of people have them. I can't do video on my feed.

[Liberal_in_LA]

5. more pics at the link

[Arctic Dave]

6. Thank you.

[Retrograde]

43. And the current Oakland police chief is Black, FWIW

I think it's just a random picture.

[Arctic Dave]

57. Was he the one that got the job to "clean up" the department?

How is he doing?

[RoccoR5955]

76. Well, you see, he's clearly guilty of

being in public while black. Welcome to the Police States of America, where the police do not have to follow the law, because they ARE the law!

[Township75]

80. You mean White woman ousting Black man.

Look who has her hand on him!

Racism or sexual fantasy?

[Rebubula]

87. Nice

Good job introducing racism into this action.

I guess some people see what they want to see.


The police action is disgusting - but trying to make it racial is as disgusting to me.

Just my opinion.

[Le Taz Hot]

89. I don't think now is the time to

promote division, do you?

[Starry Messenger]

3. Disgusting.

[Blue_Tires]

4. ttt

[lpbk2713]

7. Pic #3.

A wake-up call for every one of us for sure.

[Warpy]

8. Love the gas masks. Talk about overkill

I don't know who designed this fracas, but he needs to be fired.

[Gore1FL]

47. The gas masks were explained tonight. n/t

[Warpy]

55. And?

Sheesh.

[Gore1FL]

84. And thus hey were not overkill, they were used

That is a bit more a travesty, in my opinion that simply wearing them.

But since you "sheeshed" me for generally agreeing with you, on how fucked up this was, I guess I am done discussing this further with you.

[Warpy]

91. You've still failed to explain why they were used.

[blackspade]

130. Because they shot teargas into the OWS Oakland crowd

[inna]

67. I strongly disagree and believe she needs to be promoted! Here ya go.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. I don't remember the teabaggers ever being treated like this

[Avalux]

19. Nope, they carried weapons. n/t

[caseymoz]

62. Could you imagine if one of the Occupy people carried a rifle? nt

[inna]

68. they'd be shot, in all probability

[caseymoz]

107. Yeah, 57 times. And police would say he was flourishing it. nt

[baldguy]

71. Not because they carried weapons. That's the RW spin talking.

The 1% tacitly approved of the corporate controlled astroturf. After all, they created it.

[Jester Messiah]

96. It would surely be a different story if all the Occupy folk were packing.

One day our side is going to wake up and realize that letting the other side collect all the guns while we piously eschewed them was a really bad move.

[SwampG8r]

100. speak for yourself

i have mine and a few extras too
every democrat doesnt believe in unilateral disamament

[Jester Messiah]

102. Oh I'm right there with you.

I just worry that we're in the minority.

[Freddie Stubbs]

118. They also didn't camp out overnight

[Kingofalldems]

125. Defend those teabaggers.

[Freddie Stubbs]

126. I'm not defending them. I'm explaining why the police treated them differently

[Fla_Democrat]

34. I don't remember them camping out

but, I didn't follow them that close. :shrug:








:smoke:

[PavePusher]

97. They had permits where required and didn't camp out.

Just sayin'....

[KansDem]

104. Teabaggers represent the interests of the 1%-ters

They were handled with kid gloves...

[savannah43]

115. They are too stupid to realize it. Or, it's that ongoing myth

that if you're a Republican, the trickle down theory will make you rich, too. To all those who think they are above the fray and nothing bad will happen to them if the GOP gets complete control, may you all get what you deserve. Times three. Seeing them all finally realize the truth and suffer the consequences of their actions will be the upside to being homeless, unemployed, and sick.

[gratuitous]

10. Disclaimer

Any resemblance to any historical police action carried out in the middle of the night against peaceful protesters, fascist or free, is purely coincidental and nothing to be concerned about. Please move along, as there is nothing to see here. Have a nice day. For now.

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[NOLALady]

13. Of Course.

Ve were only following ahdawz.

[theaocp]

14. By all means,

please explain to me the laws they were enforcing.

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[Ellipsis]

25. .

[theaocp]

26. again, what laws were they enforcing?

or, as you attempted, more strawmen? Make your choice.

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[ixion]

29. lol... yeah, whatever.

:dunce:

Your willingness to shill for the status quo is unimpressive in the extreme.

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[Kingofalldems]

35. Wow, what was the other OWS group you called 'juvenilistic'?

Was that Boston or New York? I know it was last Friday or so.

[rhett o rick]

42. Go back under the rock you crawled out of. nm

[Tunkamerica]

58. riot gear for illegal camping. I got a ticket for that once.

[RandiFan1290]

82. Welcome back!

[russspeakeasy]

108. Get off the computer before your mom gets home.

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[Arctic Dave]

15. By a "corrupted" democratic process.

If they stole billions then a police goon squad would never have approached them.

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[Arctic Dave]

31. One out of how many?

I believe they term is called "fall guy" or "sacrificial lamb".

Maybe we should ask bush, cheny, etc.

[Fumesucker]

39. Who'd that guy steal from?

The poor no doubt, that's why he's in jail.

[oldbanjo]

64. A lot of those people got what they deserved

GREED caused there problems, they were making so much money that they should have known it was dishonest, but they borrowed money against there houses so that they could invest more. It is a sham that a lot of good honest people were hurt by this, but the rich that were hurt deserved it.

[The Traveler]

50. Of course he is in jail ... he defrauded rich people ... what do ya expect? n/t

[October]

99. Bingo! /nt

[johnson542]

127. That

Is the exception that proves the rule.

[ixion]

16. *facepalm*

:eyes:

[Scuba]

17. Or refuse to do so ....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2177764

[Logical]

38. And beat up some people in the process. That OK also?

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[Logical]

132. LOL....you are a joke at this point.

[rhett o rick]

41. The spokesperson for the 1% speaks out again. nm

[The Traveler]

52. It is unclear to me

that those laws trump the constitutional right of assembly and petition. While I have checked, I do not see any language that implies any level of government is empowered to inhibit or prohibit such activity on public lands.

However, I know tyrants will use all rationales available (unsanitary conditions, "vandalism", noise, etc.) to suppress speech.

Fundamental question ... tea baggers show up at protests armed to the teeth, and there is no police reaction and usually no police presence. Unarmed protesters are surrounded by police, and are often harassed, attacked, arrested.

Why this difference? It think it because a) the 1% regard the tea baggers as their foot soldiers and b) tea party protests have been relatively short in duration. Occupations have gone on so long they must now be regarded as a condition, rather than an event. The powers that be grow disturbed, and so prod their minions into action.

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[AlbertCat]

88. Many OWS protesters have openly advocated for governments to ignore the Constitution ....

... and behave in an un-Constitutional manner.


Unlike Teabaggers.


Interesting. Let's see some of what you accuse. I'm sure there are some mad housewives and college students who have mouthed off in an unprofessional "unconstitutional" manor. Frustration breeds that kind of thing. If that de-legitimizes a movement, the Teabaggers have been illegitimate for years now. Indeed every movement ever formed is illegitimate!

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[kenfrequed]

122. Okay

No kind of free speech is strictly unconstitutional. To suggest otherwise is idiotic. There is speech that is controlled occasionally. For example if the speech is directly an incitation to violence, but that speech is not, in itself, unconsitutional.


Speaking out stating for or against lending money to the banks is not unconstitutional. Lending money to the banks is not unconstitutional, nor is NOT lending money to the banks. A person stating that the government has a responsibility to provide healthcare, education, and retirement is not acting or speaking in a manner that contradicts the constitution, nor (obviously) is that speech considered unconstitutional. The government electing to provide these servies is also not unconstitutional.

Go back to school and learn about the theory behind constitutional government. Oh, and don't bother with Ron Paul, he really isn't that bright.

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[The Wizard]

90. In terms you may understand

AKA Pox News vernacular. Some people say you're full of shit. Why do some say you're full of shit? Are you full of shit for reasons unknown? Are you a full of shit troll? This could go on, but some say you get the drift.

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[kenfrequed]

121. That doesn't make any sense

Do you have any specific examples of the protestors advocating for governments to ignore the constitution?


The second part of your sentence makes absolutely no sense. The constitution was not written so much as controls on the individual, but rather more as controls on the power exercised over the individual. Please tell me how the OWS protesters are 'behaving in an unconstitutional manner.' Or you can merely concede the entire statement and apologize.

[Hissyspit]

60. What are you, 5 years old?

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[Lorien]

113. The law guarantees us all the right to free speech, assembly and peaceful protest

the cops are the ones BREAKING the law!

[occupyeverywhere]

12. Jean Quan needs to be recalled

[aquamarina]

18. This is flat outrageous.

[lunatica]

20. Thanks for keeping up with this

I live in Oakland. This morning I heard that there were police from a lot of East Bay cities there. Emeryville, San Leandro, Hayward, Union City and Fremont. That's a lot of cops. I think they're trying to intimidate the Occupy Oakland. I can't imagine why else they would have so many police.

I find it disgusting.

[Liberal_in_LA]

33. looks like 20 cops per protester

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. How proud they must be.

:puke:

[WillyT]

24. K & R !!! - It Is All I Can Do, To Stifle The Word...

"Oink".

Really don't want to go back there. But some days it is very hard.

:evilfrown:

:kick:

[femrap]

30. I just don't see

why the cops are against a Movement that serves them.

[snort]

36. Because people that seek out jobs where they

can be violent bullies tend to be stupid?

[femrap]

45. I already knew that,

newbie. But not all cops are pigs....ie New Albany, NY.

I can't say if you're welcome here or not...seem rather trollish and New Heritagist.....

[snort]

106. Just saw your response.

Spare me the newbie crap. I've been at DU for at least 5 years. And I'm 51. Hardly "new".

[femrap]

111. And of all the posts on

DU, you have to respond to mine. No more snort.

[inna]

61. perhaps it's a sign of the times. Oakland cops have been under unprecedented assault as far as

their own labor rights go; the cuts have been massive... Surplus of labor is calculated to result in more pliant - and literally desperate - labor force, ready to do anything they're told. Cops are not the exception here, sadly; they reflect the general dynamics of social *re*gress. :(

[femrap]

110. I guess the police need

to be wakened...STOP SERVING THE NEEDS OF YOUR OPPRESSOR.

[sfpcjock]

37. I don't think you're supposed to fire tear gas and rubber bullets against

peaceful protesters, are you? I haven't checked my Barney Fife manual today, but... that is for demonstrators who are rioting, isn't it? Correct me.

[Aerows]

40. Damn.

That's awful.

[unkachuck]

44. K&R....looks like the fascists are out in force tonight....n/t

[Dawson Leery]

46. Again, why going into law "enforcement" is a farce.

[Mendocino]

48. Must have been a slow night

at the BART Stations.

[Rex]

49. The 1% thank them.

[Mendocino]

51. And for all you boys

in blue who bust the head of some protester, we'll allow you to attend a luncheon from 1:15 till 2:05 Tuesday at The Bushwood Country Club. BYOB

[lonestarnot]

53. Richie rich's army.

[defendandprotect]

54. Ah, yes -- our public servants?

[Hugabear]

56. Some of those fucking pigs are smiling while trashing the camps

Goddamned fucking pigs.

[diane in sf]

59. This is the same police force that doesn't have the time or money to solve robberies,

show up at car crashes, etc.

[yoyossarian]

63. The very definition of a police state.

I knew it would get bad eventually, but I hate to see this stuff...

But I can't look away.

[workinclasszero]

65. The whole world is watching

Spread pictures of this fascist police riot in the middle of the night everywhere on the internet so the whole world knows just how "free" we are here in the capitalist paradise of Amerika!

Unarmed, defenseless and peaceful citizens exercising their constitutional rights attacked and gassed in the dark, hauled off to jail and all their possessions destroyed!

If this can be done to people in a public park, it can be done to a suburban household as well, and it will. Just a matter of time. The mask of freedom and liberty in the USA that the 1% show to the world is coming off and the ugly reality is creeping into view.

Armed fascist teabaggers were never once even touched by police, much less militarized swat/riot squads. Let the whole world see the fascist opression we are living under in the good old USA, land of the "free", home of the brave(occupiers)!

[inna]

66. Remember that classic Frank Zappa quote about the curtain/scenery/illusion of democracy?

I think he must've time traveled or something, it was pure genius, and oh so true:

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

― Frank Zappa

[workinclasszero]

69. Wow so true

And here it is, the illusion is fading away. Not only here but worldwide. The bankster 1% are getting tired of letting us 99% think we are free.

They want total power in all aspects now, government, economies, everything. No one in power can or will stand up to them.

Except some peaceful occupiers in parks across this country. And for that crime they are beaten, gassed, terrorized and hauled off to jail in the middle of the night!

[deutsey]

92. +1

[FunMe]

124. The city will pay in the courts where it will cost them money $$$!

I hope everyone arrested clogs the courts and has EVERY police officer subpoenaed. That is what the OWS people are doing in NYC. They are telling the city that they will not allow only some arrests charges to be dropped. They must all be dropped, otherwise, they will take every single case to court and make sure the city pays for their un-American fascist attacks on PEACEFUL demonstrators.

[HughBeaumont]

70. Oh look . . . protecting and serving . . . the 1%.

I don't really know why anyone's surprised. Ask anyone who was a punk rock kid in the 80s how California & DC police treated kids who weren't resisting their arrest for . . . well, they really never knew what they were being harassed and intimidated for, really.

Do people really still think they protect and treat everyone equally?

Example: in 2007. Here are scenes from the anti-war protest. 5 piglet "Gathering of the Eagles" freepers are beating a Gold Star dad up.



So for sure, these assailants, identified and in broad daylight, will be brought to justice, right?




Funny . . . it looks like the assaulters in question aren't being the least bit inconvenienced by DC's "finest".

Oh, and during that march, I saw firsthand how these "Patriots", protected by police from us "rioting demonstrators" who were instructed by the organizers of the event not to engage them (yeah, I'm sure they'll offer us the same courtesy), practiced intimidation, menacing and assault. During that march, a freeper jumped a barricade, assaulted a woman and threw her camera to the ground. Where was HIS arrest?


This happened in August of that same year. Wow, takes two 250 lb + officers to strong-arm and knee-hold a woman with a broken leg. That's reasonable. He's so stressed and the situation's so out of control, he even takes the time to pepper spray a would-be photographer. Hmmmmmm . . .

They turn a blind eye to just about everything The Gathering of the (Kl)Eagles, Town hall disruptors or the TeaHadists have pulled off for years.

Liberal demonstrators, no matter how small or large in numbers, can look forward to beatings, macings and arrests for the most meaningless of infractions.

This doesn't just hold true for normal protest - it's true for Presidential events as well.

Bush's Coronation 2005: along the parade route - rows and rows and rows of State Troopers, 3-5 rows deep, shoulder to shoulder, all in Kevlar, all armed to the teeth. Sidewalk police - full riot gear, 3 foot batons, shields. Mounted police. Security Checkpoints were well-staffed and flowing smoothly . . . I got in the parade route in a whopping 20 minutes. All for less than half of what came to Obama's event four years later.

Oh, and speaking of Obama's Inauguration . . . A patrolman every, what, 15 feet? No shoulder to shoulder rows. Didn't see the tons of riot cops. Sharpshooters here and there. Meh. Checkpoint security was grossly understaffed - took 8 hours just to even get in the parade route in 8 degree weather. For thousands upon thousands of people per street, they had four very slow moving bottlenecks. It's like they were doing everything in their power to discourage people.

Obama presidential speaking events, post 2009 - "Patriots" show up brandishing sidearms and rifles.

Now think about it. You can say "but they wasn't along his path" all you like.

What would happen if you were spotted in the open half a mile away from where Bewsh was gonna speak with a sidearm or a rifle, and you were liberal?? What would happen?

Think you'd receive that same blind eye?

You'd be in prison, and you KNOW it.

So don't anyone tell me they "protect and serve" us equally. It's bullshite.

[Glimmer of Hope]

73. Great post! The bullshit is obvious.

[russspeakeasy]

109. Damn ! Great ! Thanks....

[sandyj999]

72. My Opinion? The cops have been "itching" to do this.

They have wanted to start a confrontation somewhere and Oakland was it.

[TBF]

74. Agree. Not surprised at all that Oakland would be it -

they have no problem shooting folks in this city.

Oscar Grant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Police_shooting_of_Oscar_Grant and my journal entry: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/TBF/23

And a blog about the early release of Grant's killer: http://mediaanarchist.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/early-release-of-oscar-grant-killer-sparks-protests-in-oakland/

[deutsey]

86. How can you say that?

This fine young officer appears to be a jovial fellow inspired by the sight of democracy in the streets.



:sarcasm:

[orbitalman]

75. That is simply Horrific, ala Nazism. n/t

[paparush]

81. The Dichotomy

[Pacifist Patriot]

83. Eleven armed to the teeth, riot-geared cops to get one unarmed person out of a tent?

[They_Live]

94. from the looks of it...

Eleven armed to the teeth, riot-geared cops to get one unarmed, sleeping person out of a tent!

[Pacifist Patriot]

95. Point taken

[blindpig]

85. Bourgeois democracy at it's finest

Even the slightest questioning of the dictatorship of capital will not go unpunished.

[proud patriot]

93. cops from surrounding cities joined the fun yesterday

pleasant hill, concord, etc etc..

[sarcasmo]

103. The Empire will not allow the serfs to rise up.

[Gregorian]

117. Whose side would Jesus be on?

I wonder how that question would twist conservative's little convoluted brains.

[JDPriestly]

119. People are protesting because they are outraged, so Oakland

and apparently Jerry Brown's California government set out to cause even more outrage.

How stupid can you get.

If conditions are really unsanitary and unsafe, people will go home. Let individuals decide when the conditions are too unsafe.

I have heard that there are lots of homeless encampments. No one seems to be so concerned about those.

This is political repression, nothing else.

[spooked911]

120. freedom!

[FunMe]

123. City Administrator Deanna Santana and Mayor Quan are to blamed for this unAmerican act.

Apparently, it was Oakland City Administrator Deanna Santana who ordered the raid. "Oakland began preparing to dismantle the Occupy camp in front of City Hall a week ago, when interim Police Chief Howard Jordan and City Administrator Deanna Santana put out the call for neighboring jurisdictions to provide some of the hundreds of cops who wound up being mustered early Tuesday."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/25/BA1V1LM4N1.DTL#ixzz1buuU0mhP

Mayor Jean Quan is also getting a lot of heat. People are criticizing her in FB for allowing this to happen:

https://www.facebook.com/MayorJeanQuan

The world is certainly watching.

[blackspade]

129. What a bunch of assholes.

Thugs in cop uniforms

[malaise]

131. Fascists

fuck them