|
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend Bookmark this thread |
This topic is archived. |
Home » Discuss » General Discussion |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:52 AM Original message |
"Letter From A Friend: The Morning After the Attack on the Oakland Occupiers" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Blood has been shed. There is no turning back, now. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. They were indiscriminate. There was a lot of media there |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. martin luther king on non violence |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
40. Thank you, I need to read that right now. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. to quote rambo.. they drew first blood |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. Fox News said it was justified. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. How would they know? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Recommended. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Recommended |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. k&r |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Danse (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
6. Superb post |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R.....It is terrible people were hurt...but |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yes, the Corporate bosses are to blame. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. BINGO! There comes a point when orders from on high |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
82. KR -- |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dont call me Shirley (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Yes, those police who CHOSE to partake in acts of violence are at fault. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
85. Like the one in the pic with the |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. Yes, we CAN blame the police, because so many of them use so much more |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
63. Right. The police were "only following orders". |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
80. Come on ... even police officers know the difference between police enforcement and violence -- !! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Old_Ed_inVN (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
92. Oh, I agree |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
9. Another fine, informative post sabrina |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I wonder what orders would they refuse? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. This is the first news I've heard from Baltimore. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:42 AM Original message |
Officials sent a notice that they wanted the protesters to |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Yes, and FBI means Obama. I am very sorry to say that but it does. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Someone Needs To Ask The President If He Supports These Tactics By The Police... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Old_Ed_inVN (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
93. Comfortable shoes |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Yes, it's going to be hard to hold those spaces, but I think |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
11. On your hind legs you beat us and I hope that you're proud soldier blue |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
12. The police, the mayor, the governor |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. Unfortunately, "Liberal" Governor Jerry Brown has not been |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Is he still hiding? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cppuddy (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:39 AM Response to Reply #59 |
90. Then they should be recalled. Not sure if that will get support though. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
13. Atlanta, Baltimore, San Francisco and Oakland |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Well, they do condemn Middle Eastern and African leaders |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
TeeYiYi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Thank you for this thread, Sabrina... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. Died of what? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Someone on a respirator could die if sitting in a cloud of |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Good point. I was going to mention they didn't mention breathing problems, but as you say... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Yes, some of the comments on twitter by people who were |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I'm guessing it is a whole lot easier for me to suggest it than for someone to do it! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Lol, everything is always easier to suggest than to actually do, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 03:52 AM Response to Reply #62 |
89. This video has both the woman in the wheelchair and the Iraq veteran |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Thank you for that video. I had seen the last part where the |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
105. Just watched this again. You can see Scott Olsen and the Navy veteran |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
18. Good News...They are back..... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. They are? Haven't seen that news, but if so, good for them. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I believe the Mayor set the protest would be allowed by day - need to clear by 10PM |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Okay, that's different. They will have to decide what to do tonight |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
21. This is how resistance will be met, Capital will not be challenged. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I agree, but how? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Organize, organize, organize. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
22. The best way to fight this is MORE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS taking to the streets. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. There were elderly and middle-aged people there. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. Maybe there were a FEW elderly folks or even middle-aged folks there, but every video |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Well, probably if you are looking at the videos after the police |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
84. I didn't ask you to find any excuse for it. We also must have seen different videos |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Sorry, that did come across the wrong way. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. Thanks for the explanation, sabrina. I well understand your anger and frustration. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
25. perhaps nato will intervene? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Lol! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
26. Correction to OP and it's good news. Baltimore was not |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
32. ...then they fight you... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Yep, this is the "then they fight you" part |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
35. KR KR KR KR KR |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Eyerish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
36. K&R |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
37. K&R...for all of it....! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
38. K&R nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
39. K! R! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
42. Kick and Recommend! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
43. kick and recommend |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Jim_Shorts (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. Interesting juxtaposition at Breitbart |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #45 |
95. You need to visit this site and thumbs down all the anti-democratic |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Occupy Breitbart. Lol! Good idea we should do that. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DemOhio (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
46. Iran |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. This movement has already won the minds and hearts of |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
83. remember sitting down & "rooting" yourself to the ground as a kid? That should |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
100. Just want to say that I agree with you. The image of very |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
47. Police brutality can only stop when they are threatened.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DemOhio (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Violence or threat of violence |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
JamesJ (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
49. Did you think it would be easy? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. No, I don't think we did. I guess it's just so blatant now who the |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
53. A similar tactic of bringing in outsiders was used by Communist China during the |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Yes, it is definitely a military strategy. Our police have been |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
79. +1000% -- !!! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
65. K&R n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
67. K&R |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
69. never thought I would see this in the USA but then we did |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
71. knr 4 an excellent post. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
santamargarita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
73. There is NO turning back - keep going! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. . |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Yes and growing because we need to be too big to fail. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bergie321 (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
74. The Libyan Transitional Government |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:44 AM Response to Reply #74 |
91. The Egyptians are marching to the US embassy today |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. That gives me chills. They know how the American people |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
76. K&R |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
78. These attacks will haunt these officers one day -- maybe when THEY most need medical care .... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
81. If FBI are infiltrating in Baltimore ... they're doing it across the movements ... !! Hi, Obama!! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
87. K&R |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mwrguy (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
88. That's not a flashbang |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
104. Thank you, I don't know anything about these weapons, the |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
94. Sickening. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Love your sigline |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
96. ... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. Sad that this is so true and that it was tolerated for so long. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
louslobbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
106. Thank you for the post Sabrina, I tried to rec, but too late.....kicked anyway. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) | Fri Apr 26th 2024, 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
Advertisements [?] |
Top |
Home » Discuss » General Discussion |
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators
Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.
Home | Discussion Forums | Journals | Store | Donate
About DU | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.
© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC