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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:09 PM
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OPD didn't use flash bang grenades? My eyes are lying, My eyes are lying
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 02:09 PM by libertypirate
Really... OPD is now exasperating the situation WTF?

So don't believe your lying eye's...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqNOPZLw03Q&feature=youtu.be
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:14 PM
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1. THAT is some totally fucked up shit.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:32 PM
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12. ^_^ This post. nt
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:48 PM
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13. Quoted from each publication a moment ago, OPD ballsy
http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_19197518
There were unconfirmed reports that flash-bang grenades and wood dowels were launched at protesters.

Multiple news stenography outlets are simply repeating the AP.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/29590650/detail.html
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2097833,00.html
Police have denied reports that they used flash bang canisters to help break up the crowds, saying the loud noises came from large firecrackers thrown at police by protesters.

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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:57 PM
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19. More F'Up Shite
Video footage published to YouTube shows Olsen lying prone on the ground infront of a line of police. Around 10 people gather around him in an apparent attempt to provide aid, before a police officer throws an explosive device into their midst, scattering the group. Footage captured after the explosion, which appears to be from a flash bang grenade, shows Olsen being carried away by a group of people.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/26/occupy-oakland-veteran-critical-condition?newsfeed=true

AND

http://www.americablog.com/2011/10/oakland-police-shoot-iraq-vet-ows.html

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:14 PM
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2. WTH do they think they're doing???!



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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:18 PM
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4. My country, 'tis of thee, Sweet land of liberty, Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died, Land of the pilgrims' pride, From every mountainside, Let freedom ring
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:22 PM
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8. The first pic is from 2003.
Quite a history, huh?!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:24 PM
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10. I'd like to point out head and face shots
Go straight against procedure and the department shoud be sued for civil rights violations, and yes breaking procedure.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:02 PM
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15. First, Oakland is or was a black city, so they have always been provided
with second rate policing. Then, the mayor is being recalled and as icing, the police chief quit and there is an interim guy who seems too incompetent to tie his shoes on his own.

This situation is a tragedy waiting to happen I'm afraid.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:48 PM
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17. AND Oakland is still VERY upset over the Oscar Grant incident.
Which is why they named their Occupy spot Oscar Grant Park.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 04:28 PM
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25. Yes. Oakland has had enough. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:05 PM
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16. That first pic is not from OWS

Blog post from 2003:

http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/police-violence-shocks-activists-others-at-port-of-oakland-protest/


A protestor, who refused to give her name, bears the wounds after she says was hit by Oakland police weapon during a anti-war protest in Oakland, Calif., Monday, April 7, 2003 outside the port area. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:16 PM
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3. Wow, thrown into a crowd as they tried to rescue someone
:grr:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:20 PM
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5. WTF! Rat Bastards! Bad things are coming.
I feel it in my bones. :(

I cannot believe that was shot into a group of people helping another injured person!
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:20 PM
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6. Welcome to Amerika
Land of the fee and home of the slave!
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:22 PM
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7. That looks like it is from a third world country.
Oh, yeah! I guess we are one.

That is terrible. Particularly, the last one in that group that tried to help someone. What have we come to?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:22 PM
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9. Care to say this was a okay?
By the way flash bangs into a crowd is just a tad dangerous as you can get hurt from metal flying. This is why they sgould be limited to dynamic entry in SWAT

But hey this is a okay by the tough law and order crowd.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:56 PM
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18. Not to defend this, because I don't, but that's inaccurate.
Modern flash grenades don't produce shrapnel. A more likely danger would be burns and the danger of something flammable nearby igniting; in addition, the noise level that close would probably cause at least temporary hearing loss.

Ultimately it's just as bad, but let's be accurate about why; the biggest danger IMO is that it weighs about a pound and if you get hit with it before it explodes, you can be seriously hurt.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:59 PM
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20. Then they have changed since 2003
They are still no part of this...or should not be.

But the less than lethal, you and I know this, can be in right conditions.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 04:00 PM
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21. Agreed. (nt)
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:27 PM
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11. This video has been posted numerous times... this is the first time I had the strength to watch it.
Barbarians.

:cry: and :puke:
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 02:54 PM
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14. Another video of the same scene
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 04:25 PM
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22. First time I've seen this, thanks...I hope they sue the living shit out of the OPD!
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 04:26 PM
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23. Government lying to protect the 1%?
Tell me it isn't so!
:eyes:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 04:27 PM
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24. The only thing worse than using flash grenades against
peaceful protesters, is LYING about the fact that you used flash grenades against peaceful protesters.

Keep it up, OPD. You are doing a great job in the PR department. Attila the Hun would be about as good in public relations.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:09 PM
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26. k & r
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:18 AM
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27. War = Peace
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:31 AM
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28. Someday...we'll stop being on defense.
It'll be a proud moment. OWS is there and doing well, but the biteback should be offense. Just my opinion.
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