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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 10:50 AM
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Obama joins Republicans to restrict healthcare law Medicaid eligibility
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/10/27/House-votes-to-restrict-healthcare-law-with-White-House-support/UPI-89111319732753; http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/190179-house-votes-to-scale-back-healthcare-law


House votes to restrict healthcare law, with White House support
Published: Oct. 27, 2011 at 12:25 PM

WASHINGTON, Oct. 27 (UPI) -- The U.S. House Thursday voted to restrict eligibility for Medicaid, insurance exchanges and other aspects of President Obama's healthcare reform legislation.

The House approved H.R. 2576, 262-157, with the help of 26 Democrats and the support of the Obama administration, The Hill reported.

The Congressional Budget Office has said as many as 1 million people could be affected by the restrictions, which, among other things, would include Social Security benefits as income in determining eligibility.

....
"This provision was not a glitch," said Rep. Joseph Crowley, D-N.Y. "It was written into the law deliberately, and anyone who would have read the bill would have known that. I don't care if the president is going to sign this bill. It doesn't make it right."

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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 10:52 AM
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1. A little tidbit of things to come. All not good.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:35 AM
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9. There's a new one every day.
And our choices for the next four years are more of the same, or more of the same.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 10:54 AM
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2. Everything's a tradeoff, especially when we don't own the House.
It's the way it goes.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 10:57 AM
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4. It isn't a trade off, it is submitting to republican demands, and perhaps blue dogs /nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 10:59 AM
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5. It might be a tradeoff, considering he wants parts of his job bill to pass.
And since the GOPers in the House can certainly find plenty of blue dogs to do their bidding, it's a done deal anyway.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:56 AM
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12. The part of the Jobs Bill that was traded
was a useless piece of government deregulation that the GOP wanted anyway and will not create jobs.
It's win/win for the Conservatives and a big loss for us.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:08 PM
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15. Anytime Democrats put forth a new program, and Repubs whittle it down,
it's a loss. But that's what happens when you try to do something instead of nothing.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:59 PM
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23. This was a loss/loss for Dems
The Medicaid and Jobs part were both RW Bullshit that will hurt things more than help.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:06 PM
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14. And when 26 Democrats act like (and perhaps are) stealth Republicans
:grr:
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 10:57 AM
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3. As another of today's news items lists, we continue to be left on our own by our government
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/10/27/House-votes-t... ; http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/190179-hous...


House votes to restrict healthcare law, with White House support
Published: Oct. 27, 2011 at 12:25 PM

WASHINGTON, Oct. 27 (UPI) -- The U.S. House Thursday voted to restrict eligibility for Medicaid, insurance exchanges and other aspects of President Obama's healthcare reform legislation.

The House approved H.R. 2576, 262-157, with the help of 26 Democrats and the support of the Obama administration, The Hill reported.

The Congressional Budget Office has said as many as 1 million people could be affected by the restrictions, which, among other things, would include Social Security benefits as income in determining eligibility.

....
"This provision was not a glitch," said Rep. Joseph Crowley, D-N.Y. "It was written into the law deliberately, and anyone who would have read the bill would have known that. I don't care if the president is going to sign this bill. It doesn't make it right."




Thanks to DUer Woo Me With Science for reminding us of what we have elected.



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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:50 PM
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20. rather have no compromises at all, than compromises
that continually weaken mainstreet and embolden the 1%ers and wall street. Some compromises can be a faustian pact that does more harm than good.

My thoughts, I would have rather had obama come in and state this country and its' people are hurting and immediate economic relief must be enacted to get us back on track. When the dinos and repugs go against the plan; then he needed to publicly go to the people and state they are blocking progress to help those in dire straits and saving our economy, give me a congress to make these policies reality.

Of course, if you are appointing people like summers, geithner, rahm, duncan--then everything is a pipe dream. Because the curtain has finally been drawn back and we can see the mechanisms behind that curtain--the illusional wizard was wall street working for america's best interest and the peoples' and a government who cared more about the country's infrastructure, it's people, it's resources and it's beautiful land; instead of global corporate power and greed.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:06 AM
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6. kr -- Let's draft a liberal challenger for 2012 -- !! Let's not have another 4 years of this -- !!
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 11:07 AM by defendandprotect
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:21 AM
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8. I'm not sure the country can survive another four years of this.
We need someone like Elizabeth Warren.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:16 AM
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7. Fuck yeah! THAT's the change I believe in!
And that's why liberal Democrats, according to Gallup, support this administration by 78%! So what if it's not right? It's legislation! It's something rather than nothing! And now those lazy fuckers on Social Security better get ready to pay out some more of their generous benefit package to keep this country afloat. The alternative, raising taxes on Paris Hilton and Charlie Sheen, is just too horrible to contemplate, and besides, the Republicans will never agree to it. So let's dick over another million citizens, who just should have made better choices in their lives about being healthy.

This is disgraceful.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:49 AM
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10. +1
:nuke::grr::nuke:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:05 PM
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13. OK. You have other choices in 2012.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:28 PM
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16. No we don't. That's exactly the point.
Unless something changes, our choices will be the corporate party and the other corporate party.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:30 PM
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17. Well, then, you need to rise up and nominate (and fund, and get on the ballot) the
person you want to vote for. If your viewpoint is popular and shared by many, that shouldn't be hard.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:46 PM
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19. Your dismissiveness is unimpressive.
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 12:48 PM by woo me with science
and also contradicted by reality.

In case you hadn't noticed, we are the 99 percent.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:52 PM
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21. It's not dismissiveness, it's reality. If you don't like your choices, you
have other options. I'm happy with my choice of Obama. If you are not, then act on it.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:38 PM
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25. We are not happy with corporate, right-wing policies,
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 01:39 PM by woo me with science
over and over and over and over again.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 01:30 PM
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24. You hit the nail on the head. We have NO CHOICES in this
bought and paid for political environment, never did and never will.

That's why most here cheer on the brave occupiers and any progressive voice that has access to the bought and paid for air waves.

You should have added a :rofl: to your post.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 07:21 PM
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26. I actually thought about it.
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 07:34 PM by woo me with science
This would be more accurate, though: :puke:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:54 AM
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11. As I said, HCR is easy to undo. Passage meant nothing. Medicare
for All was what scared the be-jeezus out of them.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 08:08 PM
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27. Post betrayal of back room deals with Big Pharma/Private HC Industry, they threw a few crumbs --!!
And now they want them back --

Can believe how many were taken in by such nonsense as to call it any kind

of "reform" -- !!

Remember when reform actually meant something good!!??

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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:36 PM
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18. No hope, no change.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:55 PM
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22. No doubt by the time all the deals and compromises are reached
this legislation, which was nothing to write home about in the first place, will look like swiss cheese. So much for Obama's crowning achievement of health care reform.
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