Wow, being a police officer is a hell of a job in NYC

[Logical]

I have a hard time thinking cops are underpaid like I hear so many times.

Salary (NOT including benefits cost) after FIVE years = $76,000 (not counting overtime)

Additional Benefits

10 Paid vacation days during first & second year
13 Paid vacation days during third, fourth & fifth year
27 Paid vacation days after 5 years of service
Unlimited sick leave with full pay
A choice of paid medical programs
Prescription, dental, and eyeglass coverage
Annuity fund
Deferred Compensation Plan, 401K and I.R.A.
Optional retirement at one half salary after 22 years of service
Annual $12,000 Variable Supplement Fund (upon retirement)
Annual banking of $12,000 Variable Supplement Fund after 22 years of service (if not retiring)
Excellent promotional opportunities
Educational opportunities
Additional benefits are available to military personnel.

http://www.nypdrecruit.com/benefits-salary/overview

[monmouth]

1. Best union in the nation...n/t

[onehandle]

2. You would have to pay me more than that to be a target for gun violence.

I would not deny them a penny of that.

[WillParkinson]

4. Let's see...

Cops who get shot at, killed, assaulted get 76k a year.

Basketball, baseball and football players who engage in a game get millions.

Yep. The world is screwy.

[Logical]

7. It is not even in the top 5 of dangerous jobs in America. Roofers is twice as dangerous. And.....

162 officers died last year. 73 from car accidents. 61 from firearms.

[onehandle]

13. Did I say it was? No. A roofer doesn't seek out gun wielders as their profession. nt

[Fla_Democrat]

20. Hell no.... that's the painter's job

:evilgrin:












:smoke:

[onehandle]

40. Use that drop cloth, or else. nt

[Logical]

21. Work a week as a roofer and a cop and then report back. LOL.

[ret5hd]

8. Here is a list of jobs more dangerous than cop:

(from http://pattyinglishms.hubpages.com/hub/Most_Dangerous_Jobs)

fisherman
logger
pilot
farmer
miner
roofer
truck driver
machinery installer

that particular mythology is just one of the tools they use to subjugate you.

[doc03]

12. I am familiar with coal mining,

I could have been a miner and wanted no part of it. Union miners around here make $100000 a year or more but they are forced to work a lot of overtime like it or not..

[Logical]

22. +1000

[TwilightGardener]

27. And not one of them is going to come to my aid when someone is breaking into my house.

[ret5hd]

33. 1) what does that have to do with the statement i was responding to?

2) so your neighbors wouldn't come to your aid (assuming they knew about it)?

mine would. maybe you should talk to your neighbors more.

[TwilightGardener]

37. That's why they (police) deserve good benefits and pay. And your suggestion that

a non-police neighbor has the same duty and abilities to face armed intruders, respond to crime scenes, etc. is laughable.

[ret5hd]

39. I suggested nothing other than my neighbors would help.

[cherokeeprogressive]

49. NEWSFLASH: No policeman is going to come to your aid "when" someone is breaking into your house.

Look for the police to arrive between 10 and 45 minutes AFTER THE FACT, depending on where you live.

By then the game is over, and you've either defended your home on your own or been forced to satisfy whatever is the whim of your intruder.

[Occulus]

69. They might when the cops are breaking your face, though.

[Whisp]

50. altho those jobs Are dangerous

i don't think they fuck with your head like what cops have to see every day.

what, a truck driver get lumpy gravy at the diner?
or the roofer gets a sun burn?

[newfie11]

17. Agreed

I would imagine the stress of the job would account for the days off.

[TwilightGardener]

26. Yep. I don't begrudge police what they earn.

[TheWraith]

41. Being a police officer is not actually that dangerous a line of work.

It gets a lot of attention, but by death rate per hundred thousand, it's not even in the top ten. The most dangerous professions are logging, aircraft pilot, and fishing, in that order. That's followed by steel workers, garbagemen, farmers and ranchers, roofers, electrical linemen, vehicle drivers, and taxi trivers.

The job mortality rate for police officers is about 8 per 100,000. That's higher than the national average, which is 4 per 100,000, but far below any of the above professions. For instance, taxi drivers have a job-related death rate of 24 per 100,000, triple that of a police officer. For steelworkers, it's 47 per 100,000. And loggers have a rate of about 92 per 100,000.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/

[onehandle]

45. Well ok then. Fuck them.

'Let Them Die!'

[TheWraith]

51. Well, that's an irrational and uncivil response to fact-based discussion.

God forbid we should base our personal opinions and view of the world on stuff like objective facts.

[Pigheaded]

47. You need to do some research

Less dangerous than house painting for a living.

PH

[wildeyed]

52. I would do it if it meant I could have full dental. n/t

[doc03]

3. Looks like a good reason to join a union to me n/t

[redqueen]

28. Exactly. (nt)

[pintobean]

34. self delete

wrong spot

[marmar]

5. But $76,000 in the NY area isn't like $76,000 in Omaha.

nt

[Motown_Johnny]

18. +1

[TheWraith]

44. Correct. In NYC, $100k is considered "middle class."

Even considering that the price of some things like property is grossly inflated by a handful of sky-high homes and apartments, it's still ludicrously expensive to live in NYC.

[blueamy66]

70. I doubt that many NYC cops live in the city

nt

[Dawson Leery]

6. k/r

[doc03]

9. Just what is your motive for this post? Are you saying they

have too much too little or what? Or is it just flamebait?

[Logical]

25. Just that they should have NO complaints. And maybe not rough up people from time to time.

[ZombieHorde]

64. They get way too much money.

Their salary should be $0.00. In other words, the job shouldn't exist.

[baldguy]

10. Police work is hard. Police officers should be well-compensated.

But we should expect & demand that at the very least they uphold the law rather than break it, and defend peaceful citizens rather than violently attack them.

[Logical]

23. Seems like we could get people who would follow the law for that price.

[geek tragedy]

62. So, you think all cops are criminals? Call for their union to be busted then.

If all cops are a bunch of criminals like you claim, their unions are a RICO conspiracy.

Call Scott Walker. You have an enemy in common.

[Tx4obama]

11. It costs a lot of money to live in NYC. n/t

[onehandle]

15. Yep. $76 grand in NYC is chickenfeed. nt

[WinkyDink]

14. And you get a crack at a terrorist event!

[laundry_queen]

16. Good. I'm glad they get a decent salary.

So should everyone else. I don't begrudge them a dime.

My SIL is a cop where I live. It ain't NY. Yet her compensation is very similar. Of course, here the union doesn't have to worry about major medical costs. My SIL has already had close calls and has been injured. She has shitty hours and works many night shifts. She regularly gets spit on or screamed at. She deserves the money she gets, and so do those NY cops.

[Logical]

24. I bet she has roughed up a citizen or two. So lets call it even.

[geek tragedy]

63. Scott Walker approves of your blind hatred towards

public union employees.

[demmiblue]

19. I have no problem with this.

I just wish that all American workers were given these types of benefits.

These are the kind of things that make a healthy nation.

:shrug:

[redqueen]

31. +1

[Phentex]

29. Putting your life on the line for someone else...

priceless.

[Logical]

30. Hmmm....how much do ambulance driver make?

[sabrina 1]

38. How much do the troops make?

[Magoo48]

32. We the people pay them to protect and serve.

[proverbialwisdom]

35. That may not be the whole story, according to a recent article at Counterpunch.org

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/10/10/financial-giants-put-new-york-city-cops-on-their-payroll/

October 10, 2011

Financial Giants Put New York City Cops On Their Payroll

by PAM MARTENS

Videos are springing up across the internet showing uniformed members of the New York Police Department in white shirts (as opposed to the typical NYPD blue uniforms) pepper spraying and brutalizing peaceful, nonthreatening protestors attempting to take part in the Occupy Wall Street marches. Corporate media are reporting that these white shirts are police supervisors as opposed to rank and file. Recently discovered documents suggest something else may be at work.

If you’re a Wall Street behemoth, there are endless opportunities to privatize profits and socialize losses beyond collecting trillions of dollars in bailouts from taxpayers. One of the ingenious methods that has remained below the public’s radar was started by the Rudy Giuliani administration in New York City in 1998. It’s called the Paid Detail Unit and it allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New York’s finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye.

The corporations pay an average of $37 an hour (no medical, no pension benefit, no overtime pay) for a member of the NYPD, with gun, handcuffs and the ability to arrest. The officer is indemnified by the taxpayer, not the corporation.

New York City gets a 10 percent administrative fee on top of the $37 per hour paid to the police. The City’s 2011 budget called for $1,184,000 in Paid Detail fees, meaning private corporations were paying wages of $11.8 million to police participating in the Paid Detail Unit. The program has more than doubled in revenue to the city since 2002...

More at link.

[meow2u3]

46. It seems as if the cops on this "Paid Detail Unit" are double dipping

if not being bribed outright. Disgusting!

[geek tragedy]

36. Ten whole vacation days.

And enough money to pay the rent.

This seems like the rw attack on teachers.

[sabrina 1]

42. Teachers are beating up peaceful unarmed citizens?

[geek tragedy]

53. No, they molest children.

Hating union workers is not progressive.

[sabrina 1]

56. Supporting criminals is not progressive either.

[geek tragedy]

58. Most cops aren't criminals.

But, feel free to smear them. Just don't pretend to support union workers.

[sabrina 1]

59. What has that got to do with the current topic? Who said

'most cops are criminals'? The current topic is about those who ARE. Like the one who nearly killed an Iraq vet.

[geek tragedy]

60. This topic is about ALL cops.

You're the one who dragged the "cops are teh evildooerz" into the discussion.

The OP feels that these public servants and union members

[ret5hd]

66. if i help a criminal evade prosecution, isn't that called "accessory after the fact"?

And isn't that, in itself, a crime?

I submit that most cops ARE criminals. Even the so-called "good" ones.

[redqueen]

43. There are doctors who abuse patients. Teachers who abuse students.

None of this means that the professions should pay the entire group of employees less, or treat them as less deserving of decent benefits.

Fail.

[Whisp]

48. it's a crazy job tho, and makes people crazy after doing it a while

to see the absolute worst of humanity on a daily basis can chew chunks out of your own.

I know lots of them are assholes, but on the whole they are needed and do a good job Generally. I sure wouldn't want that crap job and glad someone does.

There are a lot of crazy whacko hairdressers too, and bus drivers, teachers, etc., and they don't have to deal with what cops have to.

[blueamy66]

54. Sounds good to me.

If you can't live on $76k, choose another line of work.

Who MADE them join the police force?

Easy enough.....

[rgbecker]

55. Definitely worth busting some heads for.

[Dawson Leery]

57. Easy money.

[geek tragedy]

61. Cut their pensions! Goddamn unionized public employees!

Funny how the extreme left goes Scott Walker on union workers they don't like.

[ZombieHorde]

65. Cut the position. Police officer should not be a job. nt

[geek tragedy]

68. If that is snark, awesome. nt

[MindPilot]

67. The only job where you get to deal with your work stress by

beating the shit out of the people who piss you off. The rest of us have to drink, smoke and take drugs.