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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 09:22 PM
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Inevitable Retreat in Afghanistan
The Pentagon and the White House are holding their breath, hoping no one notices the deepening of their clusterfuck in Afghanistan. As if to underscore the folly of their escalated military offensive, U.S. troops are planning to start withdrawing from Kandahar, the self-proclaimed center of their terror war in Afghanistan.

WaPo reported today that: "American military commanders were encouraged by an overall decline in violence in Kandahar over the summer fighting season," and that, "With President Obama having ordered the withdrawal of 10,000 troops from Afghanistan by December — and twice that by the following fall — some combat troops must leave the south, where the bulk of American forces are located, commanders said."

“We will begin to thin out and turn over security of Kandahar to the Afghan security forces, in a similar fashion as we did Kabul,” said Lt. Gen. Curtis M. Scaparrotti, the second-ranking commander in Afghanistan. Yet, it is precisely the defense of Kabul that is on the military commanders' minds -- much like the defense of Baghdad became Bush's last stand in Iraq.

WaPo: "Their goal is to replicate the situation in the Afghan capital, Kabul, where coalition troops have a low-visibility presence and serve as advisers to Afghan soldiers and police."

The pullback from their self-defined litmus test in Kandahar is no surprise. Declaring that, 'This is not Fallujah', NATO had announced at the beginning of 2010 that they were counting on local 'political leaders' to direct the upcoming U.S.-led assault on their neighborhoods and communities in Kandahar. They pressed on into Kandahar City after declaring 'success' and 'progress' in their assault and takeover of the town of Marjah - an operation which also was preceded by the killing of civilians fleeing the announced raid by NATO forces bent on replacing the Taliban-based authority in the town of 80.000 with representatives from the corrupt Karzai regime.

In the pending Kandahar advance, as in the weeks leading up to the military offensive against Marjah, NATO sought to soften their path by warning off potential resistors and allowing them (and the residents in the way) time to flee to other parts of the country. No refugee centers were established to handle the anticipated flight of residents from the promised fighting on all sides; no provisions of food provided, no medical centers set up, no living quarters contemplated for the residents forced out of their homes by the invading forces.

“The solution to Kandahar will not be done through security,” said the other NATO official, who’s a senior U.S. military official in Kabul. “It will be enhanced through security. But the change, the real dramatic change for Kandahar, will have to happen politically.”

That sentiment was echoed in the remarks of Secretary of State Clinton this week in testimony before Congress in which she described a 'two-pronged' approach in Afghanistan which involved 'talks' with the Taliban, coupled with continued military assaults on the Afghan resistance.

Yet, it's not very likely NATO will ever be able to emphasize their 'political' aims over the destructive and destabilizing impact on the communities of Kandahar from the devastating, U.S.-led military offensive. Through the force of our weapons - outside the limits that our constitution proscribes for the use of our military defenses - we're representing a corrupt regime and imposing it on the Afghan population, especially in regions which were not engaged in elections that we claim gives the new government legitimacy.

Even our would-be puppet, Karzai, has bristled and balked at the prospect of more destructive NATO conquest in Afghanistan on his behalf. The once-willing accomplice has seen the political writing on the wall and appears to be looking to settle for the assumption of power wherever the Taliban would allow. His reported outburst at the beginning of the Kandahar campaign, threatening to 'join the Taliban', was a open-warning to the U.S. that he recognizes there is no 'political solution' that can be reasonably carved out of the devastating, withering military campaign.

The military is quietly hoping we don't notice that they didn't actually transform that Marjah misadventure from the leveling of homes, the taking of resistors lives, and the destruction of farmland and livestock into the nation-building success that they intended for the mission to highlight.

As recently as this Thursday, Taliban fighters launched multiple attacks on two U.S. bases killing three Afghans and wounded six Americans. Despite that continued violence and the prospect of the Taliban forces returning, the Pentagon is committed (finally) to moving out of Kandahar.

The planned drawdown, however, is not born out of any political success or victory, but out of a certain realization that there will never be a defining end to the resistant violence there which will transform the country politically.

The only course left for a beleaguered and faltering U.S. invasion force is to pull back to the capital from their offensive positions in the south of the country and stage a desperate defense of their propped-up, yet insolent regime.

The premise behind President Obama's initial 'surge' of U.S. troops into Bush's Afghanistan quagmire was to 'push back' resisting Afghans enough to allow some sort of political reconciliation. That effort is predictably bogged down by the difficulty in getting the disparate tribes and factions to accept the central authority NATO has set up in Kabul. There's even more difficulty in getting their installed government to accommodate the interests and demands of the resisting rest of the war-split nation.

The U.S. military offensive against Kandahar was an abject failure. What happened to the promised ability of the U.S.-led NATO forces to protect the residents of Kandahar against Taliban blowback from their invasion? Nonexistent. The ability to protect innocent civilians from NATO attacks, or insulate them from the negative consequences and effects of the NATO military advance? Nonexistent. The ability of NATO to provide and deliver the services and amenities of the central government to the displaced residents? Nonexistent.

A new Pentagon report to Congress this week indicated that Afghan civilians are dying in record numbers. "Civilian casualties -- most caused by the Taliban -- reached an all-time high this summer with approximately 450 civilians killed in July. Attacks using homemade bombs, or IEDs, also reached an all-time high this past summer, with about 750 IED detonations recorded in July."

"The change in Taliban tactics has kept up the number of civilian casualties," said the senior defense official describing the report. Even though there are fewer Taliban attacks overall, he said, the Taliban "are killing more Afghan civilians."

Predictably, resisting Afghans have avoided the areas where U.S. troops have masses and have scattered their violence around the capital and elsewhere, killing former Afghan president Burhanuddin Rabbani just this September.

Soon, our military will have the bulk of our forces hunkered down in Kabul, building dirt fortresses with guard towers to surround our unpopular junta, just to cling to the appearance of progress; just to 'stay the course' in the months before the elections as President Obama postures as 'strong' and capable on defense.

President Obama and his republican Pentagon holdovers led our nation to this retreat to Kabul. They're prepared to tolerate the continued deaths of our our soldiers as our troops eventually hunker down there; tolerate the thousands drastically wounded; waiting for some declared 'victory' to materialize out of our their desperate defense of their own lives against the Afghans that the President and the Pentagon claim we're liberating.

We've been in Afghanistan longer than our country fought WWII. No matter to our leaders, though. 'Freedom's' cause for occupation supporters is nothing more than a repression of one group or another within the sovereign nation we invaded into accepting our military forces' false authority over them; and cynical manipulation and control of the Afghan government Karzai lords over by the intimidation of our military occupation.

Our nation's possessive militarism in Afghanistan and elsewhere has divided our nation from within, and, from without against our restive allies. The escalated occupation has ignored whatever Afghans might regard as freedom in our insistence that their country be used as a barrier against the terror forces we've aggravated and enhanced in Pakistan. Yet, the soldiers the President insists on continuing to commit to his retreat to Kabul are mostly fighting and dying because they're not wanted there by the majority of the Afghan people. Our soldiers are fighting to control the Afghans, and they are busy fighting to get the U.S. to release that control.

All the while, most of the original threatening figures in our terror war have been killed -- their violent spawns made witness to the worst of al-Qaeda's warnings about U.S. imperialism, more than satisfied to have the bulk of our nation's military forces bogged down and fighting for their lives in Kabul.

According to the defense official quoted along with the new assessment, despite the obvious and enduring setbacks, "We are succeeding . . . We're going to advance our goals and draw down as we've said."

"Time is running out before the international community transfers control to Kabul by the end of 2014, and many key objectives are unlikely to be achieved by then," the report warned.

Time for the U.S. militarists to declare victory and leave.
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 09:31 PM
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1. Troops are needed for the war on Iran.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 10:27 PM
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2. 'visible' troops into Iran would be suicide.
. . . that madness would likely come in the form of an air or drone assault.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 10:46 PM
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3. Sounds familiar....We won 10,000 times in Nam
General Westmoreland said it, so it must have been true...Every fuckin day there was a body count. We killed 1,000 of theirs and they only killed 45 of ours, etc...
Here's a piece of advice; don't believe a fucking word that these so called military experts tell you. They are no better than the shit politicians that they answer to. They don't give a shit about your son or daughter. They care about their careers. The only time you see an officer above captain on the front line, is because somebody in HQ hopes he will get killed.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:51 AM
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4. it's just been a waste all around
. . . American lives, Afghan lives . . . All of promises at the start of this President's 'surge' remain unfulfilled, and now we'll leave, declaring 'success' in the face of an eventual, predictable return to where the state of conflict was when we arrived in Kandahar.

It does remind of Nixon promising one more offensive in Cambodia to 'win the peace' while insisting he intended to end the war.

When will they ever learn . . .?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 09:18 AM
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5. OpEdNews
Edited on Sat Oct-29-11 09:19 AM by bigtree
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 10:43 AM
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6. 13 Americans killed Saturday in Afghanistan suicide bombing
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) – A Taliban suicide bomber rammed a van into an armored NATO bus Saturday, killing 13 American troops and four Afghans on a busy street in Kabul in the deadliest attack on coalition forces in more than two months . . .

Afghan and U.S.-led coalition forces conducted operations earlier this month, killing more than 100 insurgents . . .

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/afghanistan/story/2011-10-29/nato-afghanistan-bombing/50994750/1
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 03:23 PM
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7. Astounding!
Edited on Sat Oct-29-11 03:31 PM by liam_laddie
:wtf:
How can Gen. Scaparrotti, and all the other spokespeople (DOD, State, WH, all of 'em) keep straight faces when spouting the Petraeus-tainted talking points? It's just as ridiculous as the Republick Party's candidate "debates." Jay-sus! It is terrible that the rank&file military (of all nations) are caught in this Sisyphus-like effort.

And now this! On DU Latest Breaking News "Three Diggers shot dead" (Australian military, three plus an interpreter, and seven wounded)
http://www.theage.com.au/national/three-diggers-shot-de...
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:07 PM
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8. Pittsburgh public radio only identified the killed soldiers as "coalition forces", NOT Americans
My disappointment continues in NPR /public radio spinning a story like that - caving to political pressure.

Good grief! Even Fox news acknowledged how many Americans were killed!

"It was a major setback for the alliance as it begins to draw down combat troops.

"The explosion sparked a fireball and littered the street with shrapnel and twisted metal hulks. Heavy black smoke poured from burning wreckage at the site along the four-lane highway frequently used by foreign military trainers in the southwestern section of the city.


"Underscoring the difficulties ahead, the brazen assault occurred on the same day that top NATO and Afghan officials were meeting elsewhere in Kabul to discuss the second phase of shifting security responsibilities to Afghan forces in all or part of 17 of the country's 34 provinces.

"It also was a blow to efforts by the U.S. and President Hamid Karzai to forge peace with the fundamentalist Taliban movement as NATO plans to withdraw all its combat troops from the country by the end of 2014, with support for the costly war reaching new lows in the West.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/29/nato-convoy-attacked-in-afghanistan/#ixzz1cD8kBeac


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