GOP bill would affirm 'In God We Trust' as national motto

[babylonsister]

Cripes. :eyes:

GOP bill would affirm 'In God We Trust' as national motto
By Pete Kasperowicz - 10/28/11 04:02 PM ET


House Republicans on Tuesday will try to pass a resolution reaffirming that "In God We Trust" is the national motto of the United States.

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Democrats argued that at a time of high unemployment and a record-high budget deficit, it makes little sense to spend time on what could be a divisive bill.

"Instead of addressing any of these critical issues, and instead of working to help American families keep a roof over their heads and food on their tables, we are debating whether or not to affirm and proliferate a motto that was adopted in 1956 and that is not imperiled in any respect," they wrote in the committee report accompanying the bill.

"Without question, the Judiciary Committee has many important and time-sensitive matters within its purview," Democrats added. "The majority, however, seems intent on diverting the committee's time, resources and attention to a measure that has no force of law, only reaffirms existing law and further injects the hand of government into the private religious lives of the American people."

More specifically, Democrats argued that the resolution is unnecessary, and violates the prohibition on the government establishment of a religion.

more...

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/190513-gop-looks-to-confirm-in-god-we-trust-as-national-motto

[flying rabbit]

1. Wankers - the lot of them. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

2. Then call it what it really is: The "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING ATHEISTS!!!" Bill

Whatever happened to honesty in government? :shrug:

[JanMichael]

28. not just atheists...Pagans, Wiccans

Buddhists, the list is extensive.

[mindwalker_i]

54. Completely wrong

It's the "We don't want to do anything that would actually help the country because it would help Obama and hurt the people whose dicks are in our mouths" bill.

[mucifer]

3. not the issue I'd like to focus on right now.We have a jobs crisis.

[onethatcares]

4. the second part of that motto

"but we do take visa and mastercard for your continued enjoyment"

[PSzymeczek]

65. Or, alternatively,

"All others pay cash."

[rfranklin]

5. Religion is the opiate of the masses...

and that's about all the Republicans are willing to provide for the masses.

[newspeak]

48. yeah, it's not as if we don't have an economic crisis

at the moment. This is so much more important than finding relief for americans or passing bills to rebuild our infrastructure. I swear these guys are a bunch of out of touch sociopaths or completely looney tunes. How's that go? "Religion is the only thing that keeps the poor from killing the rich?" Oh, maybe I see a method to their madness--make this a theocratic state and make excuses for the wealth disparity. I'm sure one of the excuses will be, they really didn't exploit or steal to get massively wealthy-they were chosen by the big man in the sky.

[polichick]

6. It makes me sick that these idiots draw a salary provided by taxpayers.

[Obamanaut]

9. And yet, nearly every single one seeking reelection will be successful. We, the taxpayers,

continue to vote for "the name you know."

[polichick]

10. I hope OWS leads to political activism - we need to sweep them all out...

...and start with a new crop who have signed on to represent the people.

[ixion]

7. And the WH defends "under God" in loyalty oath

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=214x312876

So what's the difference?

[JoePhilly]

25. The GOP is trying to pass a law, that's the difference.

The people who jump up and down about this nonsense are just as nutty as those GOP members trying to pass legislation to promote it.

Its a distraction.

[Obamanaut]

8. If the motto is in fact "...not imperiled in any respect..." then any time spent on a debate

of the bill is time wasted, time that could be spent on the items that the Dems mentioned. So why would the Dems want to debate, just pass the resolution and move on.

[Downwinder]

11. Just affirming that they don't know what they are doing.

When all else fails, "Trust in God."

[Rectangle]

12. Why doesn't the GOP just to change it to "In Greed we trust"???

Wouldn't that be much more appropriate of them??

[Katashi_itto]

13. Nice to see GOP is hard at work with cruical issues...

Bunch of morons.

[Aerows]

14. A 9% approval rating isn't low enough for you folks?

Guess you are trying for lower. Yes, let's waste time on things like this instead of important things.

[blkmusclmachine]

15. Sandy Claws lives in heaven, & shares a condo with gawd.

n/t

[dimbear]

16. GOP to siblings: mom loves me more. n/t

[HereSince1628]

17. You only NEED a motto if your actions conflict with your character

and in that case, the motto is usually just mendacious marketing.

[Ilsa]

18. Most of these assholes need to be fired next year. nt

[annabanana]

19. I REALLY thought "E Pluribus Unum" already WAS our

National Motto.

I really like that one.

[Quixote1818]

63. Me too! nt

[redqueen]

20. Oh FFS.

I suspect the tea party idiots have something to do with this.

[66 dmhlt]

21. Hey, Boehner & Cantor - How the HELL does this create Jobs?!?

[Vinca]

22. Which god?

[B Calm]

23. I'm pretty sure it's the Sun God Apollo

[stillwaiting]

33. I'm pretty sure it's the Sun God Jesus. :) nt

[B Calm]

62. Jesus, could be.. After all he was the reincarnation of of Horus the rising Son

[tridim]

37. Money.

[meow2u3]

39. Money, Power, and Murder

That's the god of the GOP.

[TheCowsCameHome]

24. Is this another tribute to Rush Limbaugh?

Oh...I see.

[Jello Biafra]

26. I guess getting a jobs bill for Americans is too tough for the GOP...

which is why they are trying to pass a frivolous bill.....

[quaker bill]

27. 0 jobs will come from it.

[Historic NY]

29. Why do we waste time on BS...........

[redqueen]

30. Because the GOP has been using religion to distract idiots for decades...

and now the Tea Party has kicked that up to eleven, and they know this kind of crap is red meat for their more idiotic supporters.

[stillwaiting]

35. Because it's extraordinarily divisive and distracting.

It's what the GOP does. That is the point.

Divide, conquer, and obfuscate.

[Historic NY]

31. Recycling the old stuff because they have no solutions for the present...

You can't eat a motto.

[TBF]

32. Interesting topic. The fundie lunatics would have us believe that

this motto has existed since the founding of the country, but the truth is that it was coined much later --

(from wiki):

"In God We Trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956. It is also the motto of the U.S. state of Florida. The phrase has appeared on U.S. coins since 1864 and on paper currency since 1957.<1> Its Spanish equivalent, En Dios Confiamos, is the motto of the Central American nation of Nicaragua.

The phrase was conceived by Salmon P. Chase, the U.S. Treasury Secretary under President Abraham Lincoln.<1> Believing that no "nation can be strong except in the strength of God, or safe except in His defense. The trust of our people in God should be declared on our national coins" wrote Chase in a letter to James Pollock, the Director of the Mint in Philadelphia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

[newspeak]

58. when I think of them passing shite like this

it gives me the willies. You're right they went on a McCarthy outrage during the commie scare--cause those commies don't believe in god. When I think of the sick dominionists, I think of Iran, Saudi Arabia--hell no do I want a theocratic dictatorship.

[TBF]

61. I'm with Thomas Jefferson -

The term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state," as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. The original text reads: "... I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." Jefferson reflected his frequent speaking theme that the government is not to interfere with religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state

On Jefferson's religious beliefs -

Thomas Jefferson was always reluctant to reveal his religious beliefs<1> to the public, but at times he would speak to and reflect upon the public dimension of religion. He was raised as an Anglican, but was influenced by English deists such as Bolingbroke and Shaftesbury...

Quite a bit more here: http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/jeffersons-religious-beliefs

[Liberal In Texas]

34. Another GOP "Laser Focus" on jobs. LOL.

This and the umpteenth anti-abortion bill. What a bunch of useless jerks.

[Tsiyu]

36. But they have no idea why their approval rating is at 9%??????

Though you can bet Suzie Southern Baptist is just SWOONING right now, because her Gawd is so powerless, he needs all the fucking Republican help he can get...


Forget the unemployment rate, foreclosures, massive student debt, health care gone mad...


...forget about all our many problems because without the House passing this bill GAWD MIGHT DIE!!!!!

[Enrique]

38. where are the jobs? n/t

[fascisthunter]

40. Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

fucking religious fanatics who want to control all the time.

[Lucian]

41. I'm so glad the GOP is working on issues that are really important to this nation.

:sarcasm:

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[savalez]

42. Boehner is the worst house speaker in history.

FIRE BOEHNER!

Where can I get the bumper sticker?

[toddwv]

43. Just the GOPers' standard purely political ploy to rally their stormtroopers.

[HappyMe]

44. What the hell do we need a

national motto for?

:eyes: What a waste of time.

[ohheckyeah]

45. It would be interesting

to ask them the simple question of "why". Why is this important? I know the answer but I'm not sure they know the answer. It boils down to the equivalent of cultures that offered sacrifices to an angry god to protect them from natural disasters and societal calamities. They are trying to appease an angry god who has turned his back on the U.S.because of the "godless" feminists, homosexuals, atheists, etc. They honestly believe deep down inside that their God is one pissed off God. It's never occurred to them that many, if not most, of the problems that our country faces has to do with their bad decisions and policies. Nope, it's all the liberals fault.

These people have never accepted the New Testament concept that no longer is a nation judged as a nation but individuals are judged as individuals. It's the deep fear that they will be judged for what their neighbor does that drives them to want to control every aspect of others lives. They don't understand their own religion.

[Blue_Tires]

49. I think it's a much simpler explanation

cheap pandering to fundie voters, and it's easy to smear anyone voting against it...

[ohheckyeah]

50. But those fundie voters

firmly believe that the country has problems because of God's judgment against the ungodliness. This is what they preach in their churches....I know, I used to sit in one of those churches. Many in my family still do. They honestly believe they have to appease God.

[Major Hogwash]

46. Jobs?

Did they run on this motto thing?

LoL

[TwilightGardener]

47. Clowns pretending to do the people's business.

[L0oniX]

51. Country is falling apart and they play with this shit ...damned asscarrots!

[Fire Walk With Me]

52. Their God is the dollar bill. No thank you.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

53. Maybe a new one. The one we've been trusting has done a piss-poor job and needs to be fired.

[Iggo]

55. Something about establishment or something.

[JHB]

56. Propose reaffirming "E Pluribus Unum" as motto...

...which is the senior (older) motto by far.

Not that they should be spending time on this.

[annabanana]

66. +1 . . . . . . . . n/t

[Odin2005]

57. This is typical "gotcha" BS.

The idiots in DC are playing their old games while the country burns. :grr:

[Zyzfyx]

59. I'm sure that'll warm the hearts of the unemployed and homeless

Heavy :sarcasm:

[lpbk2713]

60. Why do they insist on wasting time and resources?

Just because the rethuglican hypocrites in Congress think this is a good idea doesn't mean it is.


Fuggen idiots.

[Initech]

64. They should just name this bill the "fuck it we don't care" bill.