All The Presidents Pigeons

[Puzzledtraveller]

We got our man in office, he paid us great lip service, and we propelled him into the highest office in the land. Going on three years and either two things are occurring, he never intended to do much of what he said, or, and it's what I used to mostly believe, the complete obstruction of the right and corporate power play politics have completely road blocked his attempts at any meaningful progress.

At what point do we call him out? Any of our elected Democratic leaders? When they see us agitated and pissed they make statements "We are on your side" "We feel your pain" "We stand with you" then go completely right back to advocating and even advancing ideas and policies against our interests and those very ideals that moved us to vote and put them in office.

At which point is it all just lip service, self preservation, keeping their job, toeing the line, doing the dance that will see them another term, because 1) They've got us, we won't vote for anyone else 2) Noone would dare run against them 3) They can just move their own goals posts and scoop up the most votes to stay ahead i.e. (moving to the center).

I have to wonder, and for myself too, am I, are we so afraid of losing that we can't win? That this is the last time a Democrat will ever be president, and this plays out over and over again, for our representatives and senators.

There are some good articles attempting to explain the tea party victories of 2010, most claim, and which I happen to believe the most is that in bad economic times voters tend to take things out against the party in power, it's preictable, but that wasn't all of it either, they went where they had'nt been going before, Rand Paul, he'pretty extreme, the got him in, they voted vastly against their own incumbents in primaries. Can we emulate that? Do we have the courage to vote on our convictions even if that means losing, even losing the highest office?

Are we just pigeons?

[shraby]

1. If you're advocating for people to vote against the Democratic

party, the alternative is an unspeakable party...the republican one..one I refuse to capitalize the name of anymore.

They got this country in the mess it's in, no ifs ands or buts about it then are absolutely refusing to aid in righting the ship.

There is not one man-jack of the whole lot who is worthy of garnering a vote on the ballot. On top of it all, they run people who have the gift of gab but no brains because they are easily manipulated to do the corporations bidding.

If people need jobs right now, why are they trying to stop abortion? That's how much sense they make..none whatsoever and never will. A republican in the white house instead of a Democrat in the 2012 election means another right wing, in your face, corporate supreme judge. (They don't deserve capitalization either. That's something that is earned)

[Puzzledtraveller]

4. my question was rhetorical

Trying to provoke in my own mind and others how we are working in this system right now, the damned if we, and damned if don't one. I agree with your last paragraph, I wonder that all the time.

[MH1]

5. The 'pigeons' are the ones who didn't vote or voted republican.

It's very simple. The base of the republican party ALWAYS VOTE. Democrats, not so much. I've spent several years (and vacation days, grr) at the polls, and I've noticed the blatantly obvious. Republicans won in 2010 because they were more motivated to go vote. Republicans in my area have it as a religious tenet that they vote in EVERY election. Why don't Democrats? Also, we tend to get more hung up on the fantasy of wishing for perfect candidates, rather than recognizing reality and voting in the best choice of the two major parties (almost always except in some cases of hanky-panky the Democrat).

[jtenn]

9. 2010 election

Unfortunately, due to circumstances collectively, beyond his control, the President was unable to fulfill as many of his campaign promises as left/ dems/ independent voters had hoped for. Consequently they stayed home in droves thereby ignoring their civic duty, and coincidentally, GIVING THE HOUSE TO JOHN BONER!
The rest is, ongoing gridlock with the sole purpose of making B. Obama the one termer of McConnells dreams.

[Walk away]

2. Great idea! Let throw the 2012 election by writing in the most perfect..

Liberal we can find! I know I would rather see a Teabagger running the country than sully my vote on a centrist Democrat like President Obama. Let's send him a message!

[shraby]

3. Where is your sarcastic tag? Sure hope you meant to have one.

[MH1]

6. I saw it quite plainly.

:)

But it is true that DU posters should be considerate of the sarcasm-impaired among us.

[Walk away]

10. Holy Cow Yes!!!!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[asjr]

8. You will sully the country by

electing a Republican is what you seem to be saying.

[lonestarnot]

7. Your man got us in this mess, not ours. Your people don't do anything but obstruct and take weeks

off.