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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:32 AM
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The United States Needs to Think Through What “We Are Back” Exactly Means


The United States is afraid that it will miss the Asian development express train and lose its leadership in regional affairs.


The United States Needs to Think Through What “We Are Back” Exactly Means
Xinhua, China
By Zhong Sheng
Translated By Howard Segal
17 October 2011
Edited by Rica Asuncion-Reed

In the most recent issue of Foreign Policy magazine, United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton published an article titled “America’s Pacific Century,” clearly stating that America’s strategic focus will shift to Asia in the future.

In the essay, Clinton writes: The future of politics will be decided in Asia, not Afghanistan or Iraq, and the United States will be right at the center of the action. ... One of the most important tasks of American statecraft over the next decade will therefore be to lock in a substantially increased investment — diplomatic, economic, strategic, and otherwise — in the Asia-Pacific region.”

Clinton’s statement doesn’t say anything new. Two summers ago, she once shouted while in Thailand: “The United States is back!” The United States is paying more attention to the Asia-Pacific region than in the past, especially its participation in military affairs. America’s “return” will deeply embed it in the political, economic and security issues in Asia.

~snip~

The United States has never left Asia, so how can it “return?” These past few years, the United States saw the rapid development of Asian countries and the gradual formation of a new pattern of cooperation. The United States is afraid that it will miss the Asian development express train and lose its leadership in regional affairs. The aims of the “return” are to gain even more benefits from regional development while also consolidating its dominant position. Clinton is frank about this point: The United States is willing to continue to be engaged and play a leadership role.




unhappycamper comment: If "the future of politics" is not going to be decided in Afghanistan, why the fuck do we continue to piss away $200 billion dollars a year there?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:40 AM
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1. Afghanistan is a waste, and we will never win or lose
we will just lose money
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court jester Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 06:19 AM
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2. Americas Pacific Century sounds Nothing Like Project for a New American Century...
Hillary Rodham Clinton, US Secretary of State, Chief Diplomat:

“The future of politics will be decided in Asia, not Afghanistan or Iraq, and the United States will be right at the center of the action..."

Translation: We will treat you like provinces of Rome, you will do as dictated, and if you don't cooperate (smile while you do it too) you will get Kaddafied

The Chief Diplomat of the United Empire continues: One of the most important tasks of American statecraft over the next decade will therefore be to lock in a substantially increased investment — diplomatic, economic, strategic, and otherwise — in the Asia-Pacific region.”

Translation: Do as we will instruct you to do or otherwise kicks in. See above. (smile while you do it too)

The Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, our nations "chief diplomat" ripped off the mask recently. Grave dancing is the Next Big Thing. Here's hoping our new "friends" in Asia keep that in mind.




‘We Came, We Saw, He Died’ and if you do not please those of us that count, you will too...

Caesar said: “veni, vidi, vici”

Clinton said: 'Venimus, vidimus, et mortuus est"

Based upon the evidence above, Caesar was a better diplomat





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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:09 AM
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6. And our soldiers won't be coming home from Iraq - they will only go to the
east side.

Of Asia.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 06:31 AM
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3. the US has already lost...
the policy of trying to plug every MIC leak around the globe is hollowing out the US domestically
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 06:41 AM
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4. Oh - I can't wait for the Fabulous results!
How much is this gonna cost?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 06:42 AM
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5. If you have to ask, you can't afford it.. n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:32 PM
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7. If THAT wasn't so scary,
...I would be laughing at the unbridled ARROGANCE on public display here.

"One of the most important tasks of American statecraft over the next decade will therefore be to lock in a substantially increased investment — diplomatic, economic, strategic, and otherwise — in the Asia-Pacific region.”



The USA is Tapped Out, Overextended,... Flat Fucking Broke,
Deep In Debt, in trouble with our creditors, dismantling our Social Programs,
AND we have already hocked our Productive Manufacturing Resources and sold out the Working Class.

With whose money and what resources does Ms. Clinton believe she is going to accomplish this feat?

It is frightening because WE WILL PAY for the ARROGANCE of our Elite Ruling Class.
It IS like Caesar calling on Legions that don't exist to save The Empire.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:31 PM
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8. Morally and literally bankrupt America posturing like Godzilla
while it extends its oil-grabbing claws into Africa.

A dry, heaving laugh is all that observers around the globe can muster anymore.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:55 PM
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9. In answer to your question
If "the future of politics" is not going to be decided in Afghanistan, why the fuck do we continue to piss away $200 billion dollars a year there?

The Chinese are pumping in a great deal of money into Afghanistan for mineral rights. The US is there to stop that as much as possible. Trying to keep the door open for corporations. (I was going to say US corporations but very few of them now)
It is all about money and who controls the resources. Has nothing to do with democracy, here or any other place in the world
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:03 AM
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10. The "Corporations" have transcended mere national borders.
They now exist in a lofty region ABOVE and BEYOND the restraints of governments and peoples limited by national boundaries.
They can no longer be reached by rules, regulations, or accountability of ANY nature.
Nobody can Vote Them Out.
The Western Corporations and their very elite owners have formed a working alliance that resembles the panoply of the Greek of Roman gods.
They now roam the globe and use NATO and the US Military to plunder at will.

The Plundering Iraq had some rough edges.
Some Opposition Voices were able to find their way into the national Medias.
But the annexation of Libya was smooth as silk.
The Western Propaganda Machine completely eliminated ANY and ALL voices of the Opposition,
and was able to completely obscure the Men behind the Curtain.
Who WAS responsible for the destruction and killing in Libya?
Was it Italy?
Italy and France?
France and Britain?
The USA?
NATO?

Correct Answer: It was ALL of them, and NONE of them.
Just like Iraq, NO single citizen or the treasury of ANY "country" will see a nickle of the LOOT from the Plunder of Libya's Resources and Treasury.
The Global Banks, The Global Resource Extraction Corporations, and the IMF WILL harvest the profits.
The BILL will be paid primarily by the American Working Class.




You will know them by their WORKS.
Solidarity99!
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:11 AM
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11. I think it was Gaddafi who was responsible for the destruction and killing in Libya
It's not like I don't agree with your basic point. It's just that I believe Libyans really did rise up against Gaddafi and really did ask the UN for help, which is a belief I base on many many videos and pictures and documents from non-Western sources.

It's up to the NTC and to whoever the Libyans elect later now to try to keep Libya's autonomy and resources. And the oil contracts have not changed - the NTC is going to honor all the contracts Gaddafi made with the West for oil.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:07 PM
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12. Of course you believe that.
The marketing for the Looting of Libya was really tight.

See if you can spot the difference:


Arab Spring in Egypt



Arab Spring in Tunisia




Libyan Civil War


” For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html


The Western Disaster Capitalists piggy-backed on the legitimate Popular Uprisings in the Middle East
to enter an Ongoing Civil War in Libya on the side of the "Rebel" Army. One KEY difference (of many) was that the legitimate Popular Uprisings of the Arab Spring wanted NOTHING to DO with the USA.

Deals were made with "The Rebels" because
Freedom Bombs are NOT Free!
There is a horrible price attached to those bombs.
Just like Iraq, Libya WILL be turned into another NeoLiberal, Free Market, Trickle Down HELL
with the Western Banks, The Western Resource Extraction Corporations, and the IMF owning everything.
The USA does NOT Drop Bombs to "help" the local people.

SEE: Any US Military Intervention in the Middle East over the last 70 years.


Never let a good disaster go to waste in an Oil and Resource RICH country!
If there is NO disaster, the US Military will be glad to create one.




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