Cold Fusion Test (LENR) E-Cat a success over the weekend per Wired

[masmdu]

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/29/rossi-success?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Against all the odds, Andrea Rossi's E-Cat cold fusion power plant passed its biggest test yesterday, producing an average of 470 kilowatts for more than five hours. (A technical glitch prevented it from achieving a megawatt as originally planned). The demonstration was monitored closely by engineers from Rossi's mysterious US customer, which was evidently satisfied and paid up.

[buddysmellgood]

1. smells like bullshit.

[PoliticAverse]

2. Previously posted and discussed on DU here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2211121&mesg_id=2211121

[hobbit709]

3. The perpetual motion machine scam strikes again.

[Warren DeMontague]

4. color me unconvinced

real science isn't done under these sorts of hush-hush 'mysterious' conditions.

[Fumesucker]

5. Let a team of NHRA, NASCAR, Formula 1 and so on scrutineers examine it in detail..

Their day to day job is catching people cheating or trying to cheat with technology, hollow bolts, holes drilled through apparently solid objects, concentric hoses that flow two different liquids with the outer one being the legitimate, battery wires that are hollow and carry an illicit fluid, all kinds of tricks..

The average engineer or academic simply isn't sneaky enough to be top notch at catching sneaky people, their default assumption is that things are as they seem and it's hard for them to change mental states to being suspicious, scrutineers don't have to change mental state to look very hard at something for evidence of it not being straightforward.

For instance, a really easy example would be a hose that is blistering hot to the touch on the outside while flowing ice water out the end.

Or vice versa.

You could touch it or even look at it with a thermal imager and not tell that the hose was doing the opposite of what it appeared.

[catabryna]

6. Deep. nt

[Fumesucker]

9. More like shade tree Machiavelli..

Get beat a few times by someone whose "battery" is actually a (perfectly) disguised fuel tank that gives him an extra lap or two before he has to pit and your perspective changes.. That one got caught in a tear-down after he just won too many times by too big a margin, the scrutineers left a pile of parts where the bike was.

A lot of racers are "conspiracy theorists" because that's how *they* would have done it, if you're not cheatin' you're not tryin'.

[catabryna]

11. I love race cars... but

fast is always, well, boring.

So, is your scenario.

[Fumesucker]

12. I love you too..

:hi:

[Odin2005]

7. Bullshit.

[AngkorWot]

8. I'm confident this works.

"The demonstration was monitored closely by... Rossi's mysterious... customer, which was evidently satisfied and paid up."

I haven't been so confident since I saw that game of three card monte, where the dealer challenged the first person in the crowd, whom he totally didn't know (I'm quite confident), and the first person won easily. Confident.

[Brother Buzz]

10. It didn't happen until it's published then verified by independent scientists

Until then, it's snake oil. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it

[originalpckelly]

13. And neutrinos broke the speed of light.

Sometimes people are full of shit, and it gets reported...because the people reporting are stupid fucks.