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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:35 PM
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Poll question: Is the Democratic Party waging class war against the 99%?
The Democrats on the "Super Committee" are offering massive cuts to Medicare and Medicaid as part of the austerity package being negotiated, according to Reuters. Organized labor is outraged by this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wba0ZPjmuMI

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/10/26/democrats-on-super-committee-offer-to-cut-medicare-benefits/

Do you think the Democratic Party is participating in class warfare against the 99%?
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:40 PM
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1. Yes they are n/t
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:41 PM
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2. Uh, yes they are.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:44 PM
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3. Other - I can't blame the Democratic Party, there are plenty
(and even some on the Committee) who against what's going on.

But essentially, yes. If the reports are accurate, we've again gone against Who We Are.

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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:48 PM
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4. The party of the 'New Deal' has been infiltrated and destroyed from the inside out.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:58 AM
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23. +1
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:48 PM
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5. No...
and whether OWS wants it or not, the Democratic Party is hearing it, and so are the members of the Super Committee.

They may not know which way to go, but they aren't standing in the way.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:52 PM
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6. Will farm bill cuts be included in the super committees cuts? Like food stamps and school lunches?
The 2012 Farm Bill will be hotly debated in Congress in coming months, as members look to cut spending from the federal budget. But recent reports detail a move to include major agricultural cuts in the deficit reduction plan to be developed by the so-called congressional “Super Committee,” as a way to ensure that legislators don’t make even more drastic cuts when they write the forthcoming farm legislation.

The current $284 billion Farm Bill, which was approved in 2008, expires on Sept. 30, 2012. Around $210 billion goes to programs like food stamps and school lunches, while slightly more than $70 billion subsidizes commodity crops and funds agricultural research, rural development and energy.

The Farm Bill, which is rewritten every five years, is always a hot topic, but this year, it might be on a tighter schedule than normal. Fears that the congressional “Super Committee,” which is tasked with cutting more than $1 trillion from the federal budget over the next 10 years, might make drastic cuts to agriculture programs have spurred agricultural interests to take matters into their own hands.

http://floridaindependent.com/54564/super-committee-farm-bill?du
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:58 PM
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7. Yes! This is not the party I joined decades ago. I've been cast aside! n/t
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:17 PM
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8. No
How can a bunch of spineless cowards who submissively urinate on themselves, afraid of what the next news cycle will bring, wage war?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:24 PM
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9. Of course it is. n/t
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:28 PM
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10. No.
The Duper Committee represents the third party, money. Only blaming Dems is fraught with bias and could use a fact check.

The timing of OWS is...timely. The Dupers are now on 24/7 watch. They'll wind up doing nothing, then bill us for their pleasure. It's probably unconstitutional anyways.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:37 PM
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13. I'm not suggesting only the Democrats are to blame.
The operative word in the poll question is "participating." The Republicans are, of course, much worse. But the Democrats agreed to a minimum of 1.2 trillion dollars in counter-productive austerity measures in the creation of the Super Committee. Now they are negotiating at the level of three trillion dollars of recession-enhancing cuts. Participating in Medicare and Medicaid cuts is class warfare in my view, whether it's a Democratic idea or whether it comes from the other side of the aisle.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:31 PM
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11. Yes.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:36 PM
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12. The Wall Street/Blue Dog/DLC/New Democrat/Third Way bunch are
The rest of the party is standing around with its collective thumbs up its collective butt wondering how they can play this to their advantage in the upcoming election season.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 11:00 PM
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14. I'd call it more like playing really crappy defense n/t
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 11:52 PM
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15. For those unreccing this thread,
would you care to indicate if you are being compensated financially for doing so?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 12:36 AM
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16. ''You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.'' :-/ n/t
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 12:46 AM
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17. Of course they are.
How strange to have an opinion poll about something that is externally verifiable by their own behavior and policy proposals. This is like asking if Rick Perry is stupid.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:02 AM
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18. More eye-openers are apparently needed
to rattle the last remaining Democrats still high on hopium out of their trance. Unfortunately, that means more real-life suffering for everyone.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:15 AM
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20. ...
"Hopium." :rofl:

Perfection. Thank you for that.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:11 AM
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19. Yep. Enough of them have been bought off to ensure that nothing good happens for the People.
They bought the entire Republican Party and most of the Democratic Party.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 02:38 AM
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21. neoliberal economics -embraced to varying degrees by both parties for the last 30+ year IS class war
You have the extreme version of neoliberal economics/class war trumpeted by the likes of Paul Ryan and the Republican leadership and you have the softer and gentler version of neoliberal economics/class war embraced by Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party leadership and you have the centrist version of neoliberal economics/class war embraced by the so-called third way Obama/Clinton faction.

But from the kinder and gentler version of class war/neoliberal economics of Nancy Pelosi to the centrist version of Obama Clinton to the extreme version of Paul Ryan - we have a program that systematically transfers wealth and political power from the 99% to the 1%.The last Presidential Administration who was NOT following a form of economics which to varying degrees systematically transfers wealth from the 99% to the 1% was the Nixon/Ford Administration. The last major party nominee of either party who was not supporting a program that systematically transfers wealth and political power from the 99% to the 1% was George McGovern in 1972 and before him Hubert Humphrey in 1968. Since the mid 70's both parties to varying degrees have been waging class war on behalf of the 1% against the 99%.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 02:49 AM
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22. I don't think they are
helping much.
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