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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 12:34 AM
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This Orwell quote from another thread reminds me of my
elementary school students. Their minds are so stunted by popular culture, bad food, lack of books in their homes, etc., that they do not seem capable of having a wide range of thought.

Newspeak

"Don't you see the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end, we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it." ~ from 1984 by George Orwell ~

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 12:48 AM
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1. Orwell vs Huxley
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:07 AM
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3. Kewl.

Thanks for that pleasant distraction.

:smoke:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:11 AM
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5. Ha!
I love DUers!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:51 PM
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11. That's good but I see no reason as to why they both couldn't be correct.
I see both trends as happening, for every place there is a circumstance and for everything there is a season, it just depends on what's needed to do the job at the time.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 04:06 PM
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15. I agree
Both are happening to some extent.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:01 AM
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2. Chilling!!! In today's paper: Parents use iPads & iPhones as pacifiers
for babies and toddlers. WTF is the future for these kids? Years from now we will see the damage that's been done to a generation's abilities to converse and otherwise connect to people. Steve Jobs was a genius, but we're gonna pay a high price for these nifty all-encompassing gadgets.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:11 AM
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4. OTOH
Both of those items are being utilized heavily to save our democracy. Double edged swords, eh?
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:36 PM
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9. Totally. I'm not knocking that.
They've saved lives. I use Apple products every single day.
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Laluchacontinua Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:18 AM
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6. What was so genius about Steve Jobs?
Edited on Mon Oct-31-11 05:19 AM by Laluchacontinua
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:34 PM
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8. User interface, versatility, elegance, vision in Apple products. .
Creating a "computer for the rest of us."

I worked at Apple for many years. He is truly a genius.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:16 AM
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7. Like being able to livestream police brutality to thousands of people?
Edited on Mon Oct-31-11 06:17 AM by MedleyMisty
Definitely a high price to pay there. If you're part of the 1%, that is.

Old people have been saying that kind of thing since Socrates. Somehow, the world keeps turning.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:40 PM
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10. Yeah, those kids get dumber every year, eh?
:eyes:
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 09:27 PM
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16. I'm a bit jaded this year because I am the reading intervention
teacher, so I am not seeing the whole picture.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:55 PM
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12. And by the end of this decade, there will be nowhere you can go without a camera seeing you
other than say your bathroom.


The Iraq was wasn't about 9/11 retaliation, it was about controlling the masses and removing their freedoms. And they succeeded. We have been overthrown, and we missed the revolution.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:57 PM
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13. That's what piss tests are for.
Edited on Mon Oct-31-11 01:57 PM by Uncle Joe
"And by the end of this decade, there will be nowhere you can go without a camera seeing you other than say your bathroom."


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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 03:07 PM
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14. I used to think 1984 was the stupidest book ever.

Then on 9/12/01 less than a year after a presidential election in which Bush repeatedly mocked Gore for believing that Islamist terrorism was a serious threat, less than three months after the nightly news broadcasts featured George Tenant informing the Senate Intelligence committee that Bush was ignoring the threat, the Rightist media said, "bet you're glad Gore isn't President now," and the people BELIEVED that which they knew to be false a moment before.

I found that moment downright scary.

On the plus side, most people would remember the truth when I reminded them. But until I reminded them.... And then there were those who wouldn't remember the truth. And not all of them Rightists.


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