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Tue Jan-18-11 10:51 AM
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Joan Rivers: Palin is "an amazing woman" and "represents everything a strong woman should be." |
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:52 AM
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1. deleted. listening to video, i see you have a bullshit subject line. nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:53 AM
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2. Even though it was Rivers.... I so was hoping there was a... |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:04 AM
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Did you listen to the entire joke? ;)
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:14 AM
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18. No... can't listen at work... |
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I guess you are hinting that there is more to the story. I'll withhold judgment then (but not on her plastic surgery--geepers!)
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:33 AM
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19. Rivers IS the punch line. |
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And we no longer have to subject ourselves to the nasty invective that passes for 'humor' as it spews from her disturbing 'Jokers' smile to recognize how ugly and mean spirited she is inside. Unfortunately, the world of cable television adores her and encourages her to add her venom to the ignorant RW climate of intolerance and judgment. People still laugh, but she really hasn't been funny in years. Even if she doesn't really admire Palin - she doesn't add anything but ugly to the conversation. Go figure.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:54 AM
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3. Botox has gone to the brain...n/t |
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:54 AM
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4. The beginnings of a new group? |
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"Artificial Women for Palin"
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:34 AM
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:58 AM
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5. So I was right in disliking that plastic ... woman for so many years. |
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Rivers is mean, not funny, and unbelievably fake, inside and out. Apparently she and the quitter were separated at birth. By a plastic surgeon.
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:02 PM
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44. you might have listened to the clip before commenting |
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She crapped all over Palin. The OP is disgustingly misleading.
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:01 AM
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Ya'll need to actually listen to what Joan said in this video.
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:02 AM
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7. JR is self-identified as a Republican, but I guess that whole |
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"blood libel" thing went right over her head!
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:03 AM
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8. Joan Rivers makes my skin crawl, like something dead with a bad smell. |
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I've had a strong adverse reaction to her for years, and it isn't just her politics. She's not funny, but flaunts a sort of celebrity status in the worst way - beyond just embarrassing.
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:05 AM
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10. People need to watch the whole video. |
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She goes on to say that Palin is "stupid and a threat."
I know that Joan has had a lot of cosmetic surgery, but I still find her funny!
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:06 AM
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11. her mind must be going |
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could she have been joking
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:20 PM
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53. watch the video - she was actually ripping Palin |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:06 AM
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12. complete moron =/= strong, amazing or even sexy. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:07 AM
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13. Uhmmmm? This is the 21st Century. There are thousands upon thousands upon millions |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:08 AM
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14. I just love the Knee-jerking, watch the video first, then type |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:10 AM
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Could you people actually watch the video before making comments?
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:11 AM
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16. Heaven forbid anyone should listen to the whole thing before offering |
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up judgement...
Never liked her but this was a dead pan swipe at Palin..,
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:43 AM
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31. Typical of DU these days, if you ask me. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:11 AM
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17. Joan tells it like it is! |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:33 AM
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20. I have heard Joan enough times to know that she loathes Palin and see if this is the full video. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:36 AM
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22. hey renew, .... your title is a bunch of bullshit. people arent going to watch video |
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Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 11:37 AM by seabeyond
because we dont want to hear this shit...
you purposely put up a bullshit subject line
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:56 AM
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38. That's exactly what she said. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:23 PM
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57. no you didn't "make it up." You just quoted it selectively to create a misimpression |
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:26 PM
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:14 AM
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111. An amazing social experiment, if you ask me.. |
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We can see how easily people can be mislead. A majority of us never check the sources and try to form an independent opinion. Its far too easy to trust in the spin the media(in this case, You) puts out, and far too difficult too check sources for every article.
Not to be disparaging, I do agree that there is also the element of trust inherent in DU members for other DUers. However, its more important that we maintain our unique perspective free from influence if we are to maintain a liberal democracy.
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:58 PM
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70. did i say you made it up? obviously ever took it the way you wanted. bullshit subject line. nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:40 AM
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24. I'm sure it's a joke. And seeing Joan in "A Piece of Work"... |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:40 AM
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1. Both are Republican 2. Both love Israel 3. Joan sees Sarah as an underdog, reminds her of herself coming up through the rough business in the comedy clubs 4. Joan loves Sarah's "I won't sit down and shut up". It's one of Joan's tattoos.
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:41 AM
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26. she doesnt like palin. she was being snarky. nt |
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BTW, amazing how Joan let the "blood libel" bit go unchallenged . . . .
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:44 AM
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:57 AM
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39. My computer won't let me play the video. I bookmarked it for later. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:42 AM
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28. She doesn't like Palin. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:55 PM
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85. Stop being lazy and watch the f**ing video. You haven't a clue. |
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88. Easy . . . I CAN'T watch the video on THIS computer. I'll watch it at home. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:41 AM
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27. WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:42 AM
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29. people arent gonna watch when they think they are going ot get the crap the OP implied. nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:15 PM
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47. Exactly... no one wants to see someone fawning over Palin |
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why the OP would post it like this is beyond me...
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:59 PM
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71. dishonest. people will only read subject line and not go in, thinking rivers |
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said the opposite of what she was saying. pisses me off. lol
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:16 PM
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93. Plus some of us are unable to watch videos |
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my internet device is old and I'm on dial-up so I can't watch videos.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:44 PM
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101. then there is that too. i saw another poster, same thing. not to mention people reading down page |
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and not reading anything else but that....
it is wrong.
i dont do blatant dishonesty well.
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87. People have already bought the crap the OP had to spew. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:43 AM
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32. Joan Rivers is a rude, obnoxious cow who's had way too much plastic surgery nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:44 AM
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33. the subject line is bullshit. rivers was dissing palin.... just cant tell from OP. nt |
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JR is a rude, obnoxious cow who's had way too much plastic surgery.
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72. fine, it is still wrong to have the subject line misleading people. nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:25 PM
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98. I don't give a shit. It's still not okay to lie about her.. |
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Guess what? I dislike how stiff her face is and that show she does, but that doesn't mean I'm going to find it acceptable to be dishonest about what she says. And when you get down to it, I'm finding the obsession of some with her plastic surgery to be just a little bit creepy and obsessive...
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56. And her surgery matters to you because? How about Kenny Rogers's? |
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92. Kenny Rogers made any statements regarding Sarah Palin lately? |
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hmmm????
but if it will appease your sense of umbrage, I think Kenny Rogers also has had too much plastic surgery. :eyes:
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:51 AM
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36. This thread wins the prize for the most deliberately misleading OP I've seen on DU |
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Really stupid post.
Joan is saying the OPPOSITE of you what you are implying here, and it is a low blow to smear her this way.
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I didn't make it up. It's her joke to tell.
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45. It's a great joke, but it's not fair to Joan to post this |
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because most people won't view the video...
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86. Yeah, and you take her first couple of words to twist what she had to say. A little dishonest |
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41. It should also win a prize for the number of condemning posts made without viewing the video. |
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The OP used selective quoting, a well known device to twist someone's intent. Happens every hour on FOX News, for example.
Watching just a few more seconds of video gets the viewer to Rivers' punch line.
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46. Boy I'm glad I scolled down to the end of the posts |
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Before I posted anything, my knee was getting ready for the 'ol jerk as well.
Now I'll actully watch it and leave my foot out of my mouth hopefully.
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49. you got that right (nt) |
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73. who is going to go into the video to hear bullshit about palin. leaves people to believe an opposite |
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and many people are not going to listen to the video cause they dont want to hear the crap.
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97. I did, but only becauae I read comments saying the OP was misleading... |
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Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 10:21 PM by Violet_Crumble
And on watching the video, I agree with them. I think the way she was portrayed by the OP was misleading and dishonest...
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105. What makes it worse is that some of us can't watch the video to see for ourselves... |
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I'm off sick from work today, but if I was there, all videos are blocked, and I wouldn't be able to watch it and see. And a few other posters in this thread have pointed out they can't watch the video, so I'm not the only one who wouldn't know how misleading the OP is. I'm also uncomfortable with the focus on her plastic surgery and how it's being used to put her down, and don't see what it has to do with anything that she says and believes...
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:23 PM
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94. Some of us can't watch the video so the poster |
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did no one a favor with that subject line. I can't watch the video so I have to count on the subject line to give some realistic clue as to what the video is about, unfortunately.
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109. I understand. That also means that one can't make an informed comment.. |
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And believe me, I've shot off my mouth based on an OP only to learn later that reading or watching the link would have changed my comment considerably. I try not to do that anymore. YMMV.
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114. or... we can collectively call bullshit and expect more of our duers... nt |
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116. Krakowiak called bullshit AFTER viewing the link. Big difference. n/t |
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Seriously, People should actually watch the video. She is being sarcastic when she says the OP title. She says Palin is stupid, a threat and is totally responsible for causing the kind of hatred and violence that happened in Arizona.
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63. Do you agree with her about Geraldine Ferraro? Bernard Goetz? |
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Needless to say, I don't love her.
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106. I don't have to agree with everything she says |
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She is a comedian. She works her ass off. She went places as a female comedian that paved the way for the Kathy Giffords and the Sarah Sivermans of the world. I have respect for that. She is not a pundit or political figure. You can disagree with people and still support their right to their opinion and still enjoy their talent and ostentatious personality. I don't agree with many male comedian's chauvanism but still enjoy their comedy and respect them. If you are looking for a purity test with comedians, you may as well not laugh ever. They are supposed to push your buttons, cross boundaries of polite discussion, piss people off-- nothing is sacred to a comedian if it can get a laugh.
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:01 PM
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42. Joan Rivers: Sarah Plain "is stupid and a threat." |
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:16 PM
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48. Edit: Intentionally misleading OP is intentionally misleading. |
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However, I stand by my previous statement that Joan Rivers scares children.
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50. Coming from a woman whose skin is pulled so fricking tight you could play quarters on her forehead |
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54. You really need to watch the video and not rely on the OP's misleading description |
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Her "skin is pulled so fricking tight you could play quarters on her forehead" or not. :D
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:18 PM
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51. Good for Joan! She tells it like it is - but with a funny slant to make it more palatable. Love |
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her on the weekly Fashion Police - glad she has given Kelly Osborne a place on the show.
Look forward to seeing her new show where she moves in with Melissa. I assume she (Joan) is getting old and has to move - like a lot of seniors do - but she is making the most of it. It was kinda of sad that she couldn't make the Golden Globes.
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:19 PM
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52. Yep. The knee jerks say a lot about certain aspects of DU. |
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always cruising for the next target to hate and say mean things about.
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55. Its absolutely pathetic how many people on this thread commented without watching |
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:27 PM
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61. In the past, she praised Bernard Goetz and said Poppy Bush |
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"kicked Geraldine Ferraro's ass" during the VP debates (he didn't). If you're too young to know who Bernard Goetz was, he initially appeared to be a hero - shooting young men who he maintained were threatening him on a subway train. However, as details emerged, his vigilante hero status became tarnished. He was carrying an unlicensed gun, the young men were not carrying weapons, and the "threats" involved one young man asking Goetz for $5.00. Goetz fired a second time into one young man as he was lying wounded from the first gunshot wound. Rivers, and countless others, praised Goetz as a hero.
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65. I don't think it's possible to have grown up in NY in the 80's without knowing who Bernie Goetz is, |
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That was a huge story that made a major impact on NY at the time. I think Goetz is out of jail and is still a hero to some.
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75. Goetz served 6 months on the firearms charge. n/t |
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:28 PM
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62. deleted by author. duplicate. |
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64. The subject line in this OP is grossly misleading. nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:34 PM
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66. I'm glad that read through the responses and watched the clip before commenting |
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Rivers tears Plain a new one folks.
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:43 PM
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67. This thread is a classic. n/t |
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68. Yes, it is. The replies to the post are more interesting than the video. People don't seem to have |
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the time to actually watch the video - but do have the time to post their uninformed opinion. DU has changed a lot from the good old days. Unfortunately.
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69. I think it's exactly the same |
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And somewhat predictable. That's not a bad thing.
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:15 PM
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80. I'm kind of glad you went about this the way you did... |
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In the past I wouldn't make it much past the headline. Lately, I read the entire article before commenting... it forces you to do so.
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:03 PM
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74. why would people waste the time to watch crap the op implied? nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:12 PM
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79. to independently verify whether it was an accurate portrayal? |
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:50 PM
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82. one would hope that a du poster would not be so purposely misleading..... |
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the intent of putting the information on subject line is for people to be informed to see if they are interested in further exploration.
the subject line cried for people to shun it.
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:51 PM
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This thread has gotten lots of eyeballs.
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:18 PM
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91. so? is that the intent, integrity or not.... get views? just doesnt work for me. nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:21 PM
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81. Because Joan Rivers is a compelling personality |
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And a comic. Everyone has an opinion about Joan.
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:57 PM
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intellectual curiosity, which is obviously lacking in some of the posters who pretty much type to see themselves type.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:47 PM
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103. there is nothing intellectual about being curious of someone fawning over palin. |
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where would the intellectual part of your statement be.....
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:15 AM
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People do it here all the time, certainly this thread is proof of that. Another thing people do here all the time is knee-jerk over post titles without actually bothering with the content.
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:08 PM
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76. Your Title is very Misleading |
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Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 01:08 PM by fascisthunter
very dishonest
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:51 PM
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83. i think it is dishonest too. nt |
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:08 PM
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77. And why should anyone care what Joan Rivers thinks of Sarah Palin? |
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I actually watched the video and am aware that she was being, as another poster put it, snarky, but still who would even ask Joan Rivers such questions?
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:10 PM
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78. Funny how so few people actually watch the video to see that she was being sarcastic |
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Telling her to go to another planet!
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:54 PM
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84. I just watched the Whole Video!!! Why are you so misleading about what Joan said? She said Palin |
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should be on another planet and that she has responsiblity for the AZ shooting.
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:54 PM
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All the comments before even listening to it.
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:50 PM
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95. Joan FLAMED Palin -- 100% bullshit OP |
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Woman ripped Palin to shreds. I bet she posts here and gets told to tone it down a lot.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:28 PM
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99. I dont understand your motive for this thread |
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Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 10:28 PM by MadBadger
I know you saw the whole video, so it kind of just confuses me.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:31 PM
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100. This thread is the updated "read the whole article" standard. |
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Watch the whole damn video.
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:47 AM
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110. WATCH THE VIDEO BEFORE YOU COMMENT - SHEESH! nt |
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:43 AM
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Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 01:45 AM by Tatersbrowning
I find it ironic that people are resenting irony. It strikes me as a CYA move to save face for commenting without knowing what what you're commenting on. A post title doesn't necessarily have to be spot on.
"you can't judge a book by looking at the cover." _ Bo Diddly
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Wed Jan-19-11 06:43 AM
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113. She talks shit for cash. How admirable. |
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Wed Jan-19-11 07:59 AM
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115. I knew Joan Rivers had to be teeing-up for a big slamm |
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if the OP explained everything it would ruin the joke
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