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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:28 PM
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Simple question for Herman: Will you now agree
to release the women who settled with you from any confidentiality clause that was part of the agreement?
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:38 PM
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1. If you are accused of sexual harassment, BLAME YO-SELF!
If the GOP powers that be decide you are not the one they want, , BLAME YO-SELF!

If you drop out of first place and then sink like the Titanic, BLAME YO-SELF!

If you are the one in the hot seat at the next debate, BLAME YO-SELF!

If your lucrative speaking engagements get cancelled and you end up broke, BLAME YO-SELF!

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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:49 PM
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2. Perfect. I'm gonna steal it. Thanks for the laugh.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:50 PM
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4. Bravo! n/t
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:50 PM
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3. Confidentiality agreements are a two-way street.
Thus Cain's reticence to answer questions about the subject. He's in a no-win/no-win situation, and flailing miserably. He can't 'sing,' so he sings, instead.
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:01 PM
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5. Not any that I've seen
And I've seen a bunch (at least those related to EEO), and written more than a few.

The reason you have non-disclosure in EEO out of court settlements is because the employer doesn't want other employees to know how much they can get. The other party usually has no interest in keeping the terms secret.

They are also nearly impossible to enforce. It's very typical for everyone in the office to know what the settlement contained before the ink is even dry.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:16 PM
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6. Thanks for the info.
So if I understand correctly, Party 1, who agrees to confidentially in exchange for a settlement, can be subject to a lifetime of smearing from Party 2 (if they so wish), without any legal recourse? I should have said, "It SHOULD BE a two-way street."
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:26 PM
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7. That's pretty much the size of it
It's pretty typical for managers to give a one sided account of the incident to other managers which can and does harm the careers of those who file EEO complaints.

However, if an employee believes an unfavorable personnel action is the result of participation in the EEO process (complainant, witness, or anyone else involved in the process), they can file an EEO complaint on the basis of retaliation.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:18 PM
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8. Cain has already broken it by besmirching these women's honor.
By confirming the dispute and saying the allegations were baseless.

They should be given leave to tell their side.
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