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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:13 PM
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I know this has been covered...
here at DU. Maybe to death....

but...

I'm sitting here watching Jon Stewart showing video of Cain and Perry.

Jeeeeezus H. Keeerist... is that what the Repubs have come to? Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan, and Poppy Bush look like statesmen compared to these guys.

I hope Pres. Obama is working on a "Romney" strategy, cuz that looks like the final candidate at this point.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:18 PM
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1. Agreed - but I think it is also all relative....aside from Goldwater
(I am too young to remember him), I recall being quite appalled by all of the rest prior to the elections and during their terms. And if we had the internet back in the Nixon/Reagan/Poppy days (at least in common use), we would be much more aware of the issues with each of them.

But overall, I can't disagree with the apparent bizarro world line up of Repub "candidates"!
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:40 PM
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4. What's interesting about Goldwater ...
... is that when he was nominated in 1964, he was generally considered the high water mark of electable right wing conservatism. Yet compared to today's GOP, at least when it comes to social/religious issues, he was downright sane. (Goldwater would never pass the many litmus tests the far right of the GOP now places on their candidates).

I posted about this very issue yesterday. Here is what I wrote:

Below are three quotes from the late Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ). For those who might be a little too young to remember much about him, as you read these quotes, keep in mind that when Goldwater ran for president against Lyndon Johnson in 1964, he was generally considered to be about as far right as a politician could be in this country and still be electable. I mean, this was the guy who said, "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the <Republican> party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them. (Said in November 1994, as quoted in John Dean, Conservatives Without Conscience (2006)).


A lot of so-called conservatives today don't know what the word means. They think I've turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the religious right. It's not a conservative issue at all." (1994 Los Angeles Times interview.)


I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?

And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."
(Speech in the US Senate (16 September 1981))
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:44 PM
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6. Thanks for these... I'm stealing your whole post! nt
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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 03:03 AM
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8. I didn't agree with Sen. Goldwater
about much of anything, but I will always admire one thing about him, he absolutely hated Nixon.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:41 PM
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5. And I remember my parents thought Goldwater was a freak
How times have changed. LOL
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:23 PM
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2. Hells bells, I'm more qualified to be President than they are!
And I'm not qualified!

I honestly don't know what has happened to the Republican Party..

Maybe it has been hijacked by the very radical right...

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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 11:02 PM
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7. Seems Republican don't want a president smarter than they are, while Dems do.
Goes along with respect for science and all....blind faith/authority vs exploration/collaboration.

Scary stuff, really.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 10:30 PM
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3. Yep, the Republican party is broken. The problem is people still vote for them.

It is just freaking crazy.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 03:07 AM
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9. You're a better man than I am.
I can't watch them or Stewart when he shows them or talks to them. They are so 2007.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 03:10 AM
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10. What is Sad is that it reflects not only Republicans but the nation
and its general intellectual underpinnings.



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