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[DisabledDem]

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[no_hypocrisy]

1. If it is sexist, it's b/c the holiday has become commercialized like other American versions of

holidays.

If girls and women dressed up as crones, natural healers in the Pagan tradition, that wouldn't sell costumes . . . .

[Codeine]

2. Irrelevant ideologues desperately sucking the fun out of everything. nt

[JVS]

3. And when they get older Halloween just becomes a day to wear the trashiest outfit possible

[seabeyond]

4. i saw more little spider girls and super hero girls (not wonderwoman) than any year past

i saw few princesses. i was surprised. gypsies and animals were big with little girls. this year i saw way less of the stereotype for girls than in the past, and it was fun. i noticed it. my boys noticed it. we talk about this because we have a niece being conditioned to be a princess. even she was not a princess this year. i have been ranting about it to her mother. forgot what she was. cowgirl? maybe. that was another predominate outfit.

[AngryAmish]

7. My little girl was a bat.

I won't let her be a princess (she did not ask).

It isn't the feminist thing, it is the fact we are Irish.

[seabeyond]

9. lol, i dont know the irish thing connected to princess. but, if you were ever around a girl/woman

that saw herself as a princess, i think it is clear why a parent might avoid that.

but a bat... the coolest. i thought there were lots of clever costumes and i alwyas have fun with the little ones.

was one of my favorite holidays with boys.

[frylock]

5. Her daughter was adorable as Justice Sotomayor.

:eyes:

[dembotoz]

6. parents control the costume up to a certain age

guess it would be up to us to dress our kid different.

can't control society
but you can up to a certain extent control your contributions to it

[Warpy]

8. Not around here

The teenagers who showed up were a little sexist, but that's the way teenagers are when they're trying to figure out what they want to be.

The little kids came as whatever they wanted to be and this year there were a lot of old fashioned things like mummies instead of a parade of Freddy Krugers. A couple of little boys were in drag and a girl was wearing a Guy Fawkes mask.

[Nye Bevan]

10. First world problem.

If you can spend days worrying about the fact that your daughter wants to be a princess for Halloween, things are going pretty well for you.

[Renew Deal]

11. For Halloween I dressed up as the Arch-Bishop of Patriarchy.

:evilgrin:

[Jamastiene]

12. The holiday itself is not sexist.

How it is marketed is at times, but who says you have to use pre-made Halloween costumes? Make your own and let little girls be whoever or whatever they want to be on Halloween.

It's not Halloween that is sexist. It is manufacturers on down to retailers, that are sexist.

[itsallhappening]

13. Hey, why not?! Sexist, racist, whatever gives people something

to complain about. You can find it anywhere, if your imagination is good enough.

[kestrel91316]

14. No. At least so sez THIS particular feminist.

There's no rule that women dress like whores. It's just a sad reflection on our society that they don't seem creative enough to dress other ways. Too much time spent watching reality tv.

[pipi_k]

15. The kid who got dressed

as Justice Sotomayor...

did she actually choose that costume herself, I wonder...

doesn't sound like it.

Which really isn't fair to the child, if she really wanted to be a fairy princess or something. Yeah, the adults all thought the girl "looked adorable".

But what did the child think? Was it all about the parent?

What on earth is wrong with asking a child what s/he wants to be for ONE stinking day out of the year, and allowing him/her to be that character???

I don't see where letting a kid be a character for ONE lousy day is going to warp his/her perception of self for his/her entire life.

Yes, sexual stereotypes suck.

But FGS, leave the kids alone to be what they want to be for a few fucking hours out of a year.


PS...and I say that as a grandma of three...two girls and a boy. The oldest granddaughter was always a "girly girl" with the bubblegum pink everything, little princess dresses, etc.

She's ten years old now. And she's enrolled in a Tae Kwon Do class.

Because she wanted to...not because her parents thought it's something she SHOULD do, to break the bonds of what Society thinks she should be.