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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:10 PM
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Surprise! White House Rejects Petition(s) To Legalize Marijuana
Seven garnering the required 5,000 signatures for a response, to be exact (totaling 150,000 signatures). In one fell swoop:

White House Rejects Petition To Legalize Marijuana
source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- The White House has rejected several marijuana legalization petitions, one of which called on the federal government to stop interfering with state marijuana legalization efforts.

"As a former police chief, I recognize we are not going to arrest our way out of the problem," wrote Gil Kerlikowske, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, in a statement released late on Friday. "We also recognize that legalizing marijuana would not provide the answer to any of the health, social, youth education, criminal justice, and community quality of life challenges associated with drug use."

The statement came in response to a petition submitted by retired Baltimore narcotics officer Neill Franklin as part of the White House's "We The People" project, an effort to allow ordinary Americans to gain the attention of policymakers through an online portal at the White House website. Any petition garnering 5,000 signatures within 30 days of submission is guaranteed a response from the White House; Franklin's petition received more than 17,000.

"It's maddening that the administration wants to continue failed prohibition polices that do nothing to reduce drug use and succeed only in funneling billions of dollars into the pockets of the cartels and gangs that control the illegal market," said Franklin, who serves as executive director of advocacy group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, in a statement released Saturday...

(more at the link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/white-house-explains-anti-legalization-position-marijuana_n_1068081.html)


Here's the entire press release from the White House:

When the President took office, he directed all of his policymakers to develop policies based on science and research, not ideology or politics. So our concern about marijuana is based on what the science tells us about the drug's effects.

According to scientists at the National Institutes of Health -- the world's largest source of drug abuse research -- marijuana use is associated with addiction, respiratory disease, and cognitive impairment. We know from an array of treatment admission information and Federal data that marijuana use is a significant source for voluntary drug treatment admissions and visits to emergency rooms. Studies also reveal that marijuana potency has almost tripled over the past 20 years, raising serious concerns about what this means for public health -– especially among young people who use the drug because research shows their brains continue to develop well into their 20's. Simply put, it is not a benign drug.

Like many, we are interested in the potential marijuana may have in providing relief to individuals diagnosed with certain serious illnesses. That is why we ardently support ongoing research into determining what components of the marijuana plant can be used as medicine. To date, however, neither the FDA nor the Institute of Medicine have found smoked marijuana to meet the modern standard for safe or effective medicine for any condition.

As a former police chief, I recognize we are not going to arrest our way out of the problem. We also recognize that legalizing marijuana would not provide the answer to any of the health, social, youth education, criminal justice, and community quality of life challenges associated with drug use.

That is why the President's National Drug Control Strategy is balanced and comprehensive, emphasizing prevention and treatment while at the same time supporting innovative law enforcement efforts that protect public safety and disrupt the supply of drugs entering our communities. Preventing drug use is the most cost-effective way to reduce drug use and its consequences in America. And, as we've seen in our work through community coalitions across the country, this approach works in making communities healthier and safer. We're also focused on expanding access to drug treatment for addicts. Treatment works. In fact, millions of Americans are in successful recovery for drug and alcoholism today. And through our work with innovative drug courts across the Nation, we are improving our criminal justice system to divert non-violent offenders into treatment.

Our commitment to a balanced approach to drug control is real. This last fiscal year alone, the Federal Government spent over $10 billion on drug education and treatment programs compared to just over $9 billion on drug related law enforcement in the U.S.

Thank you for making your voice heard. I encourage you to take a moment to read about the President's approach to drug control to learn more.


This entire thing reeks of bullshit, but there are two points I just want to highlight:

"...raising serious concerns about what this means for public health -– especially among young people who use the drug because research shows their brains continue to develop well into their 20's. Simply put, it is not a benign drug."

I wonder how the White House feels about the other drugs we stuff our children with before they reach their 20s - like Ritalin, Adderall, or Abilify. Wonder how those mesh with cognitive development. Not to mention sugar, the most over-consumed drug of all, which may also very well be the most dangerous (especially when you consider the high doses...had a post on this just the other day from Bill Maher's lastest final New Rule - Bill Maher - Drugs and Halloween Candy (on Psychedelics)). Just how benign are these drugs? And since when did "benign-ness" become a standard of legality? I hope the White House puts the TV on mute during the "Side effects may include..." bit on all those prescription drug commercials.

Secondly, there's this gem:

"Like many, we are interested in the potential marijuana may have in providing relief to individuals diagnosed with certain serious illnesses. That is why we ardently support ongoing research into determining what components of the marijuana plant can be used as medicine. To date, however, neither the FDA nor the Institute of Medicine have found smoked marijuana to meet the modern standard for safe or effective medicine for any condition."

I'm so sick of this mechanistic, reductionist, linear, fragmented, compartmentalized, disconnected, parts-oriented thought process. We never think about the whole! It's the whole plant itself that works as medicine precisely because of the entire plant, including the accompanying "high." It's like how we try to break food down to its nutrients, not understanding that there may be something about consuming, say, a stalk of broccoli itself that allows for optimal nutritional value/uptake. Now, I realize there are even deeper problems/hypocrisies within their assertion, given that they are essentially admitting the health benefits of the cannabis plant - effectively negating its "Schedule I" classification. But, in their deft illustration of doublespeak, they discredit the plant while claiming there are benefits within the plant - but not the plant itself.

I'll save you all anymore bellyaching on my part. In the meantime, here are a few interesting insights on the "War on Drugs" as a whole (the Watts speech is in 5 parts and fairly longer, but well worth the listen):

Drug Abuse Law & Sin ∞ Alan Watts (1/5)
"The War on Drugs" explained by Graham Hancock
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bainz Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:22 PM
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1. The Obama Administration supports legal MMJ n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:25 PM
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3. LOL
Yeah that meme proved to be bullshit.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:27 PM
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4. AND He's a FIERCE ADVOCATE for GLBTs everywhere!
:eyes:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:49 PM
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7. links, facts, what does the aministration consider legal??
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:04 PM
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11. LOL
:silly:
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mwrguy Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:23 PM
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2. Give up power over the people? No way.
That's all the prohibition laws are, one more way to control the citizens.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:31 PM
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5. I tink its the Churchy thing.....as a member, da Man cannot OK the High....end of story
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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:00 PM
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9. That at least plays into it...
Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 01:14 PM by drokhole
Priests are the "sanctioned" gatekeepers. The beginning and end of access to the "divine." And their "authority" is based almost solely on a set format of memorized words and ceremonies, from "supernatural" events of long ago. They hardly ever directly experience the "divine Ground" (- Huxley) for themselves. But, more importantly, they certainly don't want any individual or parishioner to experience any sort of "divine" state, which many people have reported after ingesting certain substances (especially psychedelics).

That kind of direct experience is beyond control of the church, and therefore threatens the authority of the church (and state, in a way...and any state church, especially in the old days), along with many established worldviews.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:14 PM
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18. Ed Zachery... :o)
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:34 PM
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6. It seems like this might be the place to say this-
I'll use the seven words we aren't allowed to say over the radio or tv as an example of how we are run by our government versus our government is run by us. First of all, the concept that the seven words is to protect the children is absolutely false. It is to protect adults from being embarrassed in front of children. Because adults are adults. But I digress.

Here is what I'm hoping OWS accomplishes. I hope we shed all of our politicians like a reptile sheds its skin. And I'm hoping the OWS movement becomes our new government. That's it in a nutshell.

There will be a new Declaration of Independence. But instead of a new geography there will be a new democracy in the same physical location. Only we will be rid of the oppressive regime that isn't responsive to the will of the people.

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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:57 PM
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8. Right. Now's the time to force mj
legalization. Right on the cusp of an election.

Great fucking timing. This is why we can't win for losing.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:01 PM
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10. How many threads about this do we need?
FFS just post in one of the many others.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:08 PM
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12. how many? until you get tired of reading and posting in them lol nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:09 PM
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13. "lol" I have only posted in a few. There are 32 active and 5 on the front ******* page.
Tiresome. So very tiresome.

lol indeed
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:16 PM
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14. ONLY keep legal
the drugs that KILL people, like tobacco and alcohol. MOST of my friends' elderly parents died of tobacco caused disease, but I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE WHO DIED OF CANNABIS CAUSED DISEASE. I mean there probably are some - the stupid folks who drove WAY under the influence, but COME ON! What drugs are the MOST dangerous to our national health? It sure as hell ain't cannabis. Ms Bigmack
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:20 PM
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15. "According to scientists at the National Institutes of Health --
the world's largest source of drug abuse research"

Well, DUH.

If the people doing the investigating are looking for abuse they will FIND abuse. They are not neutral players.

"marijuana use is associated with addiction, respiratory disease, and cognitive impairment. We know from an array of treatment admission information and Federal data that marijuana use is a significant source for voluntary drug treatment admissions and visits to emergency rooms."

MJ is NOT physically addictive - it might be slightly habit forming, but that is not the same thing unless you really stretch the definition.

There is no independent data that I've seen that it is itself responsible for respiratory disease, as evidenced by statistics of MJ only smokers vs MJ & cigarette smokers.

Long term or short term cognitive impairment? Is a person impaired while smoking? Yes, but far less than while drunk. Does the impairment last beyond the period of intoxication? Where are the studies?

Does anyone voluntarily check into rehab because of MJ? I've never heard of it. The MJ users I've heard of going into rehab are all multi-substance users.

MJ does NOT overdose. No such thing, no how. There is no reason for anyone to go to the ER JUST because he was smoking. This is a flat out lie.

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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:24 PM
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16. Fuck 'em - I've been smoking my own organic for over 32 years - never been much of a problem here
Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 01:24 PM by GreenTea
on the northern California coast.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:24 PM
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17. It won't be legalized...
Until BigPharma figures out all the wording on the bills that keep you from growing your own, etc. Until they can nail down all the profit for themselves, there will be no legalization. Decriminalization is all we can hope for at this point. A simple 'legalization' bill is nonsense and a huge waste of time until you have one that spells out growing your own, etc.
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