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Zen_fighter Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:21 PM
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President Obama dust off that birth certificate!
Republicans in total control in Indiana... here is something from this session:

Senate Bill 0114

2011 1st Regular Session

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DIGEST OF INTRODUCED BILL

Qualifications of presidential candidates. Requires a candidate for the office of President of the United States to certify that the candidate has the qualifications provided in Article 2, Section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States (qualifications), and to submit with the candidate's declaration of candidacy or request that the candidate's name be placed on the primary ballot a certified copy of the candidate's birth certificate , including any other documentation necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications. Provides that the election division may not include the name of a candidate on a list of certified candidates for the primary election ballot unless the election division has received the candidate's certification and documentation. Requires the state chairman of a political party to certify that each nominee of the party for President and Vice President of the United States meets the qualifications. Requires that a certified copy of each nominee's birth certificate, including any other documentation necessary to establish that the nominee meets the qualifications, accompany the state chairman's certification. Provides that the election division may not certify the name of a nominee for President or Vice President of the United States unless the election division has received a nominee's certification and documentation.


SB 0114
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:25 PM
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1. I'll show you Obama's birth certificate when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:44 PM
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2. I believe that the Federal Election laws would supercede any state requirements
And it has been obvious for as long as this has been an issue that the Federal Election Commission would have had to have processed Obama's intent to run for President. Why don't the birthers take their problem to the agency that certified the candidate in the first place?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:47 PM
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3. Sadly I don't think so. Third party candidates tend to run into this all the time.
Each state can set different rules, forms, requirements, procedures to get onto the ballots.

Now for the two major parties this isn't that burdensome but many times 3rd party candidates never get on all 50 ballots due to various state level requirements, deadlines, and procedures.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:47 PM
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4. mccain was born in Panama if I remember correctly
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html

A series of early-20th-century decisions known as the Insular Cases, he wrote, ruled that unincorporated territories acquired by the United States were not part of the nation for constitutional purposes. The Insular Cases did not directly address the Canal Zone. But the zone was generally considered an unincorporated territory before it was returned to Panama in 1999, and some people born in the Canal Zone when it was under American jurisdiction have been deported from the United States or convicted of being here illegally.

The second way Mr. McCain could have, and ultimately did, become a citizen was by statute, Professor Chin wrote. In Rogers v. Bellei in 1971, the Supreme Court said Congress had broad authority to decide whether and when children born to American citizens abroad are citizens.

At the time of Mr. McCain’s birth, the relevant law granted citizenship to any child born to an American parent “out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States.” Professor Chin said the term “limits and jurisdiction” left a crucial gap. The Canal Zone was beyond the limits of the United States but not beyond its jurisdiction, and thus the law did not apply to Mr. McCain.

In 1937, Congress addressed the problem, enacting a law that granted citizenship to people born in the Canal Zone after 1904. That made Mr. McCain a citizen, but not one who was naturally born, Professor Chin said, because the citizenship was conferred after his birth.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 12:48 PM
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5. racist, redneck legislation...how long has indiana been a state without this statute?
funny how it comes up now, eh?

not funny at all.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 01:29 PM
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6. They're trying to get him in 2012 and think they can stop
him from running then.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:10 PM
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7. So. Obama will just present a certified copy of his birth certificate...
it's no big deal.

He was born in the United States in Hawaii. The birth certificate is there and has been witnessed.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 02:13 PM
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8. ZOMG ZOMG WUR DOOOMED!
DOOOOOMED!

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