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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:28 PM Original message |
Glenn Greenwald: The Vindication (by Barack Obama) of Dick Cheney |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. K & R |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, bush and Cheney must be very pleased with Obama. |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
91. The clintons and bushes are still running the show |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Food for thought here, especially the last bit. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. Dick Cheney says he's been vindicated, Greenwald agrees. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Cheney approves of Obama's foreign policy. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. The article is a lame attempt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. 'Trying to reverse the process' |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. More rhetoric |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. I really wish you would do your own research |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. From the ACLU link |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. They have not ended torture! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. "People are being tortured under this administration. " |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I have already provided you with several links proving that torture |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No you haven't |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I'm afraid Obama doesn't agree with you. When he promised to end |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
68. The way I understand it, rendition means sending someone to another country for whatever purpose. |
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G. Odoreida (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #68 |
80. That is correct |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
82. Bradley Manning. nm |
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webDude (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 02:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
70. Seriously, ProSense, do your homework, or stop working for them, your choice. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
73. What? |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
94. I still like Obama. Just wish he could be our real president. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
71. Amen, Sister. (n/t) |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
88. Sabrina 1...It is what I would have said if I could have thought |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
77. Just how has Pres Obama demonstrated he is "in the process of trying to reverse" |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
93. Why not? He and his gang are still running the show. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Is Cheney in prison? Is his name poison? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. "Is his name poison?" |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. What did Cheney say in these articles that isn't true? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I'm glad you see Cheney as a truthteller here |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. ProSense, you're really cute when you grasp at straws. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Cute: "What did Cheney say in these articles that isn't true?" n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #40 |
86. Exactly and he closed Guantanamo like he promised. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. He's being quoted by the right as the voice of reason, and now |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
85. And Pres Obama isnt calling him out. nm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
59. Obama is following in Cheney's footsteps. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Bradley Manning nm |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
89. Let me help. |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
92. They try but do not succeed. |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. Now that he's won the seal of approval from the warmongering fascists |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama understood, even before getting elected, that he would have to play ball. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. Bipartisanship..at its worst. Would love to hear a response from the WH. |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. There goes Greenwald again... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. And I bet he can't play chess like President Obama! |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. or hopscotch |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. And Greenwald's not half so fetching in his swimsuit! n/t |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
81. New material.... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. Cheney: "I think he's learned that he's not going to be able to close Guantanamo. " |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Thanks for posting |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. And how is President Obama's record on civil liberties and gov't spying compared to George W. Bush? |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. What's his record so far and what exactly is he (still) doing? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Read this just for starters: Government Spying on Americans -- Doesn't Any One Care? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Oooh...a sternly worded signing statement. |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. So the right wants to jump on Obama's bandwagon... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Post information on the expansion of democratic rights and civil liberties under President Obama ... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. "Hard facts, not meaningless political rhetoric please. " |
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Gaedel (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. They don't count in the current argument |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Oh |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. All of which has fuck all to do with the OP. eom |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Greenwald convicts himself. Read the OP. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. They're direct quotes. If you have a problem with them take it up with the reporters. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. Greenwald, and others btw, reported what Cheney said in the |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. He IS continuing Bush/Cheney policies. No one needed |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
79. To think the right would ever jump on Pres Obama's bandwagon is delusional. nm |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
18. Is Anyone SUrprised Dick would Say This |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
28. All that's missing is the cowboy boots and "Smoke 'em out". |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
62. That difference may be worth something. |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
41. Recommend. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
43. When the people who want to destroy the prez are happy with him... |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. K&R |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
50. Greenwald's a one-trick pony... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. So long as his trick is telling the truth he doesn't need more than |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Projection being what it is... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
87. Greenwald isnt the one continuing the Patriot Act, MCA, domestic spying, Guantanamo, torture |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
52. K&R, thanks for posting.. |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
56. Great article. Disturbing, but great. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
57. When did Congress declare war |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
61. REC and kick. nt |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
63. Fuck. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
64. K&R |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-18-11 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
65. K & R, but this one hurts |
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Fiendish Thingy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
67. Damning Praise n/t |
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Michigan-Arizona (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
69. K&R n/t |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
72. Sadly, |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. He will cash in his "Wall Street chips" after his presidency ends, but that's a different matter. |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
74. And It Will Be Obama's ONLY Legacy |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
76. that 'interview' was a cheney infomercial...not one hardball question |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
83. I would be happy to see Obama switch parties |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-20-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. Bingo. n/t |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
84. The established power loves continuity. n/t |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-19-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
90. K and R |
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