Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

SUPER COMMITTEE Going After Your SOCIAL SECURITY? That Was the Point!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:43 PM
Original message
SUPER COMMITTEE Going After Your SOCIAL SECURITY? That Was the Point!
:smoke:


" It was clear from the inception of the deficit reduction Super Committee that it was designed for the purpose of cutting entitlements, especially Social Security benefits. The Super Committee proposal was given the same protection from a filibuster as debate on a reconciliation bill, but the Super Committee proposal is not subject to the same Byrd Rule (PDF) that prevents the Senate from using reconciliation to fast track Social Security cuts. The procedural rules governing the Super Committee couldn’t have been more purposely designed to make cutting Social Security as easy as procedurally possible.


So the latest report confirming that the members of the Super Committee are actively trying to cut your Social Security benefits isn’t surprising.


From Politico:



As a critical deadline for the supercommittee nears, Social Security appears to be on the negotiating table.


In private conversations, and now in public, the idea of changing the social program as part of a deficit-reduction deal is gaining some traction — a move that has been politically unthinkable for years.

<...>

This is on top of proposals inside the panel. Last week saw a slew of plans put forth by Democrats and Republicans on the supercommittee. Democrats unveiled a plan that would cut the deficit by roughly $3 trillion, which was declared not “serious” by Republicans because of $1.3 trillion in new tax-based revenue — their plan did include changes to Social Security. Republicans rolled out a $2.2 trillion plan, which generates $640 billion in nontax revenue. Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) have discussed a $1.2 trillion plan, and changes to Social Security alongside it could show they are reaching for a broader scope


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67295.html




The main Social Security change being discussed is switching to the “Chained-CPI,” which would change the annual cost of living adjustment to an index that would tend to rise more slowly than the current index. This would result in a small benefit cut every year, but over time the difference would be compounded into a significant reduction in benefits.



The Democrats on the Super Committee want to significantly cut your Social Security and have offered to do it. The only thing really protecting your Social Security benefits from cuts right now is the Republican unwillingness to reach a deal that includes explicit tax increases. There should be no doubt that your Social Security is in serious danger right now. It has been in serious danger ever since the Super Committee was purposely created in such away to make it easier to cut the program.



More from David Dayen’s coverage:


“Of course, members of Congress won’t really have to worry about their benefits getting cut. That’s because they’re mostly fabulously wealthy and won’t be burdened as much as the other 99% by a more meager Social Security check every month.


Members of Congress had a collective net worth of more than $2 billion in 2010, a nearly 25 percent increase over the 2008 total, according to a Roll Call analysis of Members’ financial disclosure forms.


Nearly 90 percent of that increase is concentrated in the 50 richest Members of Congress.




http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/11/01/super-committee-going-after-your-social-security-that-was-the-point/

.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:45 PM
Response to Original message
1. It may have been the point -- but we need to make sure the Supercommittee gets gored by that point.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. How, pray tell?

Looks to me that we're going to get screwed one way or the other.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. We tried voting them out.
We tried shaming them out.

We even tried to get a case made against them by a court of law.

Yet...nothing seems to work. And nothing ever happens. To Them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:46 PM
Response to Original message
2. Seems like the Democrats have decided to
play the "we can cut more than you" game. We The People have lost any representation we had in the Government.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. If they don't do an about-face, they will never get my vote or money ever again
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:53 PM
Response to Original message
4. Welcome to the "United Corporations of America."
I'll need to see your ID card, benefits card, and the fee for talking to me just now...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Maybe they haven't noticed yet but the 99% anger is swelling up to the point of no return.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:59 PM
Response to Original message
7. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 03:08 PM
Response to Original message
8. We need real Democrats in Congress. These assholes ain't them.
If they cut Social Security, they will cut their own throats, politically speaking.
The 99% will never forget them -- nor forgive them!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Creating the Super Committee was always part of the phased plan in order to estabish
a ' theatre of illusions ' crisis directed squarely at us, the 99%. Their methods are stealthy, incremental and focused.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. "These assholes ain't them."
Truer words were never spoken.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 03:44 PM
Response to Original message
10. Congress should vote on whether or not the Super-Committee is constitutional?
I don't think so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
12. They are coming for our Social Security/Medicare,
...and "they" are going to get it too!

The PLAN is well advanced.
The DEALS have already been made.
All that is left is for the The Kabuki to play out.


NO Democrat will be voting FOR cutting Social Security!
The will be voting FOR a "Comprehensive Package" that "Saves the Economy/Children."
Unfortunately, the "package" WILL contain some "minor readjustments to Social Security/Medicare.

BUT...
"We can't let the Perfect be the enemy of The Good."

"I am on the Record for supporting Social Security,
but I couldn't turn my back on (whatever the Hostage Crumb is)."

"This is the most Progressive legislation since EVER!"

"This is HISTORIC."

"It was the sensible/pragmatic thing to do."

"Look at the good crumb we got."

"He doesn't have a Magic Wand."

"We didn't have the votes." :cry:

"It was ALL Joe Lieberman's fault!" :cry:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Add backslapping and complimenting each other for being bipartisan -
oh, and everything you've listed will also be touted by the President - especially the HISTORIC-ness of the plan.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:59 PM
Response to Original message
14. Deleted message
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:14 PM
Response to Original message
16. Yup...knr
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:01 PM
Response to Original message
17. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:39 PM
Response to Original message
18. Obama: "This is not a bloodless process."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 08:59 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC