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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:51 PM
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Rand Paul On Cain Scandal: It’s Getting To Where You Can’t Joke With Women Anymore
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) has an interesting take on Herman Cain’s growing scandal: honestly, he says, these says it seems like women can’t take a joke.

“There are people now who hesitate to tell a joke to a woman in the workplace, any kind of joke, because it could be interpreted incorrectly,” he told the National Review. “I don’t. I’m very cautious.”


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RainbowSuperfund Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:54 PM
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1. ....nor stomp on their heads.
Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 04:56 PM by RainbowSuperfund
....nor stomp on their heads.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:56 PM
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2. Is context *really* that hard to understand?
Seriously, is it just me?

Why is this so hard for so many people to get?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:00 PM
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6. why would a gender want to readily give up dominance? nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:09 PM
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9. Well women are just as clueless sometimes...
it really grinds my gears but we all grow up so immersed in this crap.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:13 PM
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11. again... you are right on. i grimace every time i read a post from a woman that validates this
shit.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:45 PM
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20. Just an example of the non-dominant group
absorbing the message of the dominant group.

It's so pervasive... I wonder if we'll ever be able to change it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:52 PM
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24. we were well on our way 70's and 80's and part of 90's. took huge step back after that
now, what happened in late 90's early 2000's in our culture about that time.

create all girls and women as mans whore.

may not be in the kitchen adn preg, but we all have our porn to denigrate women.

imo
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:56 PM
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3. Open mouth....insert foot......asshole! n/t
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:56 PM
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4. Sucks that you can't tell racist or sexist jokes in the workplace like that.
Poor Rand :cry:

Probably explains that anonymous complaint you had filed against you in college.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 04:58 PM
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5. reminds me of all the "liten up, ladies or girls" i hear so regularly. how about the rape joke and
laying back and enjoying it.

ya

that

funny

liten up gals

fuck him

this is that fuckin male privilege we talk about that is so prevalent everywhere you look
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:03 PM
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7. Hey Rand, if you wouldn't want your daughter to hear it from a man at
work, then maybe you shouldn't say it either.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:20 PM
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14. Such a simple standard, & yet difficult for so many men to grasp. --nt
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:08 PM
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8. A rabbi, a Mexican, and a lesbian walk into a bar...
and they all said rand paul is a dick.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:12 PM
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10. Whereas we men have thick fucking skin and love to be insulted!
So what Rand is saying is that he can't tell all his sexist/racist jokes...because someone (a woman) might sue. :eyes:

The fact that Rand is a congress critter IS A JOKE! A SICK ONE AT THAT!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:48 PM
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22. The fact that he is in congress...
that Perry is a governor, that Bachmann is a senator, that Palin has as many fans as she does... for me it's all evidence that Idiocracy wasn't as fictional as I wish it was.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:01 AM
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47. Bachmann's not a senator, thank gods.
She's a rep from an insane part of Minnesota. No way she could win as a senator, although after seeing Norm Coleman, that slimy pimp, win, I guess I'm not so sure.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:06 AM
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49. Oops yes... member of congress.
I'm fairly sure she wouldn't have a chance... at least I hope not.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:17 PM
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12. ...
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:19 PM
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13. I think it would
be funny to tie Paul's dick in a knot...do you think he'd fine that funny???

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:22 PM
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15. he is so old...
ok, really, just a joke. geeeesh, why are men so sensitive now a days. cant tell any joke.

hey

good seeing you
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:06 AM
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39. Good to see you, too....
We haven't been banned yet!!

My question is....when did women EVER find this crap funny???

I'm not surprised that Rand Paul is a misogynist...after all his father was an OB-GYN who wants abortion outlawed. And he knows damn well that women will always have abortions. At least the abortions should be legal and safe.

Karma will see to the two of them. Only a matter of time.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:12 AM
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42. i thought they were into no govt. interference? my FIL tells me sexist jokes everytime
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 10:13 AM by seabeyond
we visit. MIL says, just being funny, young women today have no sense of humor. my sons, when they were younger, would have wide eyes and mouth drop opened, shocked the man would be so outwardly sexist. and i always say something. in earlier days, that i was not into inlaws teaching my boys to be sexist. now MIL shuts up FIL before he gets going.

my father does it, too.... only when there are people around.

never when it is just he and i.

hubby says it is these men trying to find their place of dominance.

i have never found being insulted or effort to embarass me or put me in my place as.... funny.

it is not meant to be funny. it is meant to dominate. and it is not for or about the woman, it is all about the man, feeling.... manly
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:44 AM
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50. Manly men....ugh.
Gentlemen...OK w/ me.

Gotta say I miss a civilized world where shame actually modified behaviors.

Alas, our culture is now in the sewer...and young women are wearing 4" heels.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:48 AM
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51. just like our girls really need to get away from what media tells them a woman is, our boys
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 11:51 AM by seabeyond
really need to walk away from society telling them what a man is. they look so foolish
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:46 PM
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21. I think it is much like his brain
so would be way too small to do that.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:07 AM
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40. LOL! nt
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StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:29 PM
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16. In Rand Paul's world . . .
. . . there are "people", and there are "women". Surprise, surprise.

(Really, Rand? Your mother and female teachers never gave you any hint about when you're being funny, and when you're being a jerk?)
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:33 PM
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17. Inorite? And you can't call black guys "Boy" anymore, either! They get so upset!
What a freaking tool.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:36 PM
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18. Go fuck yourself, Rand. And I'm not joking. Just do it!
Then crawl back into your hole.
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Gamow Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:38 PM
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19. "I’m very cautious" meaning 'I'd like to be a world-class pig, but I hold back'
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:49 PM
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23. Oh, so Cain was just joking?
Is there a limit to how many times Cain can use that excuse?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 06:16 PM
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25. Actually the first person I think of when I want to laugh IS Rand Paul.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 06:21 PM
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26. Wait, I've been working all day. What did Cain joke about?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 07:21 PM
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33. he paid out an harassment settlement and said at least one of the women offended him talking about
height or some such garbage. rw equate to he just joking with her. no one knows what the harassment suit was about
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 06:59 PM
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27. Here you go Randie.
Listen carefully.

If you are telling a joke or making any kind of comment or gesture to a woman that you would not want some other man telling you mother, wife or daughter, it is probably a sexist joke.

Randie is an idiot.

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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 07:04 PM
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28. Excuse me?
Sexual harassment is a "joke"? :mad:

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 07:08 PM
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29. "Getting to the point when ya can't even whip your niggers on the plantation."
"In full view of the city folk! What's this world coming to??"

Ron Paul . . today's worst person . . in the world!!!!
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 07:13 PM
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30. Joke?
I am not sure the repugs could get any more fucked up then they have become.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 07:19 PM
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31. Meh, not funny, nothing to see here. ;)
Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 07:19 PM by Fire Walk With Me
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 07:20 PM
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32. Rand Paul: Apparently whipping it out in the break room is now "offensive"
Of course the damn liberals say the same thing about segregated lunch counters.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 11:41 PM
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34. The workplace is not the location for jokes that offend people
whether the jokes are about race, age, gender or sex or religion or other very personal things.

I remember sitting at a lunch with some associates who were maybe 35 years younger than I was. They were ridiculing an elderly weatherman on one of the local stations. I couldn't say anything, but I felt very uncomfortable with them after that. It caused a lot of problems for me. I just wasn't comfortable with them.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 12:51 AM
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35. It's the fucking PATTERN, not a single joke, you stupid dipshit!
One joke that misfires is just a bad joke. A pattern of misogynist jokes is actually pulling rank by talking dirty, and it only works one way. If the woman who is the butt of this kind of workplace humiliation strategy objects, she's a prude. If she answers in kind, she's a slut. Either way, the woman loses, and that's exactly why men do this.

(As an aside, I think men and women are equally capable of pulling quid pro quo harassment, in which the deal is put out or suffer the consequences. The reason we don't see more of it from women is that there are fewer in positions of power.)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:12 AM
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36. when a guy says that
it means he's a sexist, misogynistic piece of shit
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:21 AM
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37. Yean, cuz these days we're all uppity.
Fer chrissakes, what's the matter with us?

My worst case was a manager who found the box of emergency tampons we kept in the office. Said manager actually pulled out the instructions from the tampon box and asked the 4 or so women in the office trying to cash out to show him how to insert a tampon.

"Just show me the position you have to be in!"

Yeah, that's REALLY funny.

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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:38 AM
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38. Guess that whole 'kidnapping a woman and making her bow down to Aqua Buddha" thing
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 01:41 AM by Adenoid_Hynkel
was just good clean fun on the part of Ron Paul Jr.

What a surprise that this guy would be so tone-def on women's issues.

(Some of his supporters, just joking around)
Ron Paul's son, once again proving that "'conservative' is shorthand for 'being a fucking asshole."


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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:09 AM
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41. I am one to tell dirty and/or offensive jokes...
But I reserve them for people I know that aren't bothered by them. It's very easy to tell.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:16 AM
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43. ya. because i am white and living in tx, people think i automatically i want to hear vile, racist
jokes, too. the other day, after my neighbor once again, started mouthing off, i asked hubby.... why the fuck he thinks i want to hear that crap.

but then

i am way sensitive
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:22 AM
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44. Exactly, thank you.
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 10:23 AM by redqueen
It's so obvious and simple that I can't help but think anyone who does it in any other way is not trying to make people laugh, they are trying to offend, to assert their dominance.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:56 AM
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45. That was pretty much the line my stepfather used
on my mother when I told her what he had been doing to me while I worked (below minimum wage) in one of the small variety stores they had.

It was 1974 and I was 22.

One day he came in and I was behind the counter leaning over...he came back and pressed himself up against my ass.

and there were other things as well.

His defense to my mom was that he was "only joking" with me. My mom believed him.

I never worked again in either of their stores.


Bad me. No fucking sense of humor.

:sarcasm:

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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:00 AM
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46. Maybe if you would tell a joke, women would be fine with it
Something that degrades women, however, isn't a joke.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:06 AM
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48. We're not paying Randroid to joke with women. We're paying him to legislate.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:51 AM
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52. You know, if you don't know the difference between joking and harassment...
You're probably harrassing.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 12:11 PM
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53. It's Getting to Where You Can't Smack Stupid Rand Cultists In The Head With A Frying Pan
anymore, not that they'd notice, they're all cementheads to begin with.
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