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Mira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:12 PM Original message |
BREAKING NYTimes: WOW - that's a lot of money to forget - Cain accuser got lots of it |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. For the association that's chump change |
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Mira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Of course. Maybe that's why Cain thought it was about 2-3 month's worth and forgot about it |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. for a low wage employee facing court and the powerful, that is a lot of money. nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I wrote, from the association's POV. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. sure it is. a hell of a lot less if they made trouble. an easy buy out. and the women go |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. That is a different conversation |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. payment not indicative of level of harassment.... pure speculation? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Let's clarify |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. jeezus fuckin christ.... i was expanding on your damn post. YES, CHUMP change |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. BE. NICE. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. always... i am always nice. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
52. Funny, I was place my first and only mutual ignore with the poster you are responding to |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It is a small settlement for the company. I suspect there may have been more. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Oh I suspect, due to NDA, costs were taken care off |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. As far as a sexual harassment suit it does seem very small. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Of course |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. It's probably not as bad a deal as it might look like. |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
69. Especially if you consider the alternative |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Exactly. Not to mention, filing suit is always an uncertain process. |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
67. This really doesn't have that much to do with the merits of the case |
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rustydog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is a huge clue in how the 1% live and think |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. yup. nt |
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itsallhappening (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Nafissatou Diallo lied. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Something happened in that room. But the powerful |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
70. Deleted message |
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Thread winner....ding, ding, ding. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Except there was no case with the IMF guy which we know |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. +1 |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'm wondering just when Cain "stepped down" from his position at the organization |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
12. If someone had to leave their job over something |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. $35,000 is chump change that a rich prick like Cain could possibly forget. |
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Mira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Except none of them would ever consider paying if he had not been guilty. |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Nonsense. Corporations pay that much & more every day 'cause it's cheaper than going to court. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
19. Google "average sexual harassment award". $35,000 is way below most awards. |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. If she only made $35k per year, she's not a reliable source |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. Why is this legal? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Why is what legal? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Cain should pay, not the association. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. What difference does it make? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Because one is a punishment to the perp and the other is a get out of jail free card. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. So if you are ever seeking monetary damages... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Another lawyer who doesn't get it. |
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Whiskeytide (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Uh oh - Now I gotta defend us lawyers... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Oh, I see |
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Whiskeytide (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Just so we keep the record straight... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. You are confusing two things |
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Whiskeytide (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
73. The influence of the tort reform movement... |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
64. The lawyer is correct. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Yes, financial status of the claimant will affect settlement value for those reasons |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. this was a settlement not a judgement after civil trial. It likely wasn't Cain's... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. This is why I don't think paying hush money should be legal. |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I too think there are problems with it, as it does hide the truth...in some cases... |
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Whiskeytide (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. If you have a better system, I'm... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Make the perp pay. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. In other words - "Give the victim nothing" |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. We're talking about a real case where the perp could easily pay. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. The victim made a decision not to do that |
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Whiskeytide (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #61 |
72. So you want to re-vamp... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. First off - it is illegal to pay to cover up 'crimes' |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. It's hush money. The amount doesn't matter. It's too expensive for a low wage worker to pay legal |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Not with a strong case and a contingent fee lawyer |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. You get what you pay for. Contingency fee lawyers sound great but do they have what it takes to go |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. The cost of a lawyer doesn't change the merit of a case |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. What kind of evidence is needed to win a sexual harrasment case? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. It depends on the case |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Why is what legal? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. That is not severance pay! That is something else. |
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firehorse (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. yes the something else is hush money. *sorry to repeat* |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
40. Cain shoulda put a sock on it before we put a sock on his campaign |
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iRidiculous (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Cain's done |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'm surprised Bush didn't appoint Cain to the Supreme Court. . . |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
43. "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." - 2 Timothy 3:12 |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
50. His "reculat'n" isn't so good. |
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