WTF??? The 3 Social Programs are on the Table? Any Democrat voting to reducing MediCare/Cade; SS,

[opihimoimoi]

should be expulsed from the Party by recall/defeat.....

TAX THE FRIGGEN RICH....Period... stick to the HONORABLE PLAN....

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. They will, and that will add recruits to OWS.

Bubble ain't breaking until we get to the gates I fear.

[opihimoimoi]

2. Reason and Sanity has been rescued from the GOPer Prison.... Truth has been recalled and will join

the 2 women...watch for the solutions to render the GOP hapless

[slipslidingaway]

3. The Dems put it on the table :( n/t

[sam11111]

4. the top 1% have.....

Top 1% have $16 trillion

(link was Inclded as part of daily KOS)

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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nxY_tso8jLcJ:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/04/789523/-Citigroups-Shocking-Plutonomy-Reports-h-t-Michael-Moore+plutonomy&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&strip=1

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The Wealth Report
Plutonomics ...
By Robert Frank, Wall Street Journal - Jan 8, 2007

... The nation’s top 1% of households own .... more than $16 trillion in wealth ...
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The top 10% have $33 trillion

[slipslidingaway]

6. And Congress increased their net worth by 25% from 2008 to 2010...

Net Worth of Lawmakers Up 25 Percent in Two Years, Analysis Demonstrates

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_51/And-Congress-Rich-Get-Richer-209907-1.html

Nov. 1, 2011, Midnight

"Members of Congress had a collective net worth of more than $2 billion in 2010, a nearly 25 percent increase over the 2008 total, according to a Roll Call analysis of Members' financial disclosure forms..."

[Old Codger]

5. First

The so called "super" committee (which IMHO is unconstitutional) has to actually come out with it, then both houses have to pass it, if that happens Obama has to sign it or veto it, if he signs it he is probably toast, no doubt at all along with a whole shitload of sens and reps.. I seriously doubt he would sign anything if it got past the senate, I do not doubt the house would clear it but most likely not the senate.

[opihimoimoi]

7. I insist...any Dem voting to touch the 3 should be defeated asap

[JDPriestly]

8. Absolutely.

That means you, Max Baucus.

I called my congressman today and expressed my horror at the fact that he is serving on this committee.

I explained how the cuts to Medicare and Social Security are theft and that they will really hurt young families with poor parents. I asked the kid (the congressman's aide) how he would feel if he had to take care of both his grandmother or a parent with Alzheimers and small children in his home at the same time. That will be the result of this cost-cutting for many young families. In LA, you cannot rent an apartment and eat and pay utilities on $1200 per month or less -- and that is the average Social Security benefit.

Costs will not go down if Social Security and Medicare benefits are reduced or the COLAs are reduced. Only the money to pay the costs is being reduced, not the costs themselves.

I am 68. We all paid into this system all our working lives. Now that we are retiring, we are told there is not enough money to pay for our senior years.

Remember a week or so ago when the committee that investigated fraud, waste and abuse in the military engagements overseas reported that it wanted to seal the results of its investigation for 30 years. Well that is where our Social Security money went -- to the fraud, waste and abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere, to the military. Kick-backs, etc.

There is a huge surplus in the Social Security Trust Fund. It isn't a lack of money in that fund. It is a lack of will to pay the fund back for the money borrowed from it to pay our military and other costs and to fund tax breaks for the rich and for corporations.

The solution for Social Security is to raise the cap on the wages subject to the tax. That is what Obama proposed during the Democratic primary debates. He has totally forgotten that proposal. (What does that say about his character? -- Not good.) What has he really done -- introduced a payroll (Social Security ) tax vacation that reduces the money coming to Social Security just as the mass of baby-boomers are retiring.

It's yet another theft from the poor and the middle class.

(Of course, Obama's first wrong was to appoint Timothy Geithner, a protege of Pete Peterson, arch enemy of Social Security, to be his Secretary of Treasury. The Secretary of the Treasury is responsible for safeguarding the Social Security surplus. Obama literally put the fox in charge of the hen house. If you wonder why I am so critical of Obama, now you know.)

Cuts to Medicare and Social Security are not just cuts to old people. They are cuts to the young, to the grandchildren and children of old people because the burden of caring for their aging parents and grandparents will fall to the individual, young families. That's OK if your dad is a millionaire. But it is really devastating if your parents have a great deal of need -- say your mom gets a stroke -- and you have to wait on her hand and foot.

Nursing homes rely on Medicare and Social Security to keep going. They will simply close if the funding for those programs is reduced.

Instead of cutting Social Security, raise the taxes on the rich.

[opihimoimoi]

10. Well said Ole Friend, well said :o) Opi

Come, we go eat, drink, laugh, smile, sing, dance, golf, surf, hang glide, oops....

[msongs]

9. its called Obama Syndrome - if u cave and sell out enuff maybe republicans will love you lol nt

[opihimoimoi]

11. I don care whats it called...vote for cutting the 3 and risk defeat at election time

[piratefish08]

12. the Dems OFFERED the cuts up....... quite a bunch of warriors they are....

we need to hit the reset button on around 90% of Congress...........

[opihimoimoi]

13. any traitor Dems will be recalled...defeated nx yr

[indepat]

14. Does that apply to the chief grand bargainer?

:patriot:

[opihimoimoi]

17. Obama had better have some good reason for touching any of the 3

Like really good....

[Scuba]

15. They're infiltrators. Wolves in sheep's clothing. n/t

[opihimoimoi]

18. ed zachery

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. Table? Chopping block.