Ok this is fishy

[nadinbrzezinski]

7:45 p.m. Injury accident on Broadway at 11th Street
A man and a woman were hit at 11th Street and Broadway by a silver Mercedes, after a male driver ran
a red light, said Joe Jackson, 37, of Oakland, who witnessed the incident.
The driver was irritated by protesters walking in front of him.
Onlookers said the driver deliberately ran over the pair, accelerating after a man hit on the hood of the car.
The windshield was splattered with what appeared to be a milkshake.
After the car stopped at the other end of the intersection, the driver switched seats with his female passenger.
About 40 people gathered in the intersection and some pulled open the driver's door.
The woman inside shouted: "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!"
The injured man and woman were taken away in ambulances.
Police let the driver go.


http://www.mercurynews.com/occupy-oakland/ci_19247016

[sakabatou]

1. Police let the driver go?

WTF?

[Poll_Blind]

2. Ok, that IS fishy.

PB

[nc4bo]

3. Tag number? I KNOW someone had to get a tag number. nt

[Matariki]

4. I read elsewhere that the driver was arrested & people surrounded the car.

I'll try to find that link.

And wow, the part about the driver trading seats with his passenger. That's low.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. I am taking it straight from mercury nooz site

[Matariki]

6. A different version - driver taken away by police

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/11/02/port-of-oakland-shut-down-due-to-occupation/

OAKLAND (CBS13) — Thousands of people effectively shut down the Port of Oakland in an attempt to disrupt the flow of goods at the nation’s fifth-busiest port, but a protester in downtown Oakland was hurt Wednesday evening after being struck by a vehicle.

Protesters had been gathering at an intersection near Broadway and 11th Street at about 7:30 p.m. when a sedan struck one of the demonstrators, knocking him to the ground.

Footage from the KPIX-TV helicopter over the scene showed a large crowd gathering around the scene of the incident within minutes. Police were seen questioning the driver before transporting him away from the scene in a police cruiser.

The severity of the victim’s injuries are unknown, but he appeared to be moving his extremities and responding to questions from emergency personnel. He was transported away by ambulance shortly after 8:00 p.m.

[Motown_Johnny]

7. "The" driver (the woman) or "THE" driver (the man)?

It may be misleading if the man was arrested and the woman who was in the driver's seat when the police arrived was let go.


Possibly just poor phrasing. (at least I hope that bastard was arrested)

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Me too

[Modern_Matthew]

9. Reports circulating on Twitter that the man has died. nt

[Electric Monk]

11. The driver should be charged with Murder 2 then at least, if not Murder 1.

Being "frustrated in traffic" is not a defense.

[MedleyMisty]

12. Not confirmed though

In the months of following Libya on Twitter, I don't know how many times people said one of Gaddafi's sons had died.

I'd wait for confirmation.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. That's one if the problems with twitter

Wheat/ chaff

[Modern_Matthew]

14. According to a RT reporter who's traveling with CBS News, it's true...

https://twitter.com/#!/LucyKafanov

[greyl]

20. Damn, she's saying there were 2 incidents.

1. Truck plowing through a crowd with no injuries
"dude. I'm here. Get your facts straight. Truck plowed through crowd but no one was injured"

2. The Mercedes hitting 2 protestors:
"@JackalAnon were (sic) with a CBS crew who confirmed protester is dead. They filmed."

[Fire Walk With Me]

10. "Police let the driver go."

But of course.

[greyl]

15. That's probably not true.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/11/02/port-of-oakland-shut-down-due-to-occupation/

Remember what it means when a story sound "fishy"? ;)

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. That came straight from the mercury news.

[greyl]

17. So? I posted a link with a different account of the situation. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Here is from San Fran gate

The two people who were injured, a man and a woman, were taken to a hospital. They both appeared to be conscious.

As the driver left, many in the crowd yelled at him and at police, saying he should have stayed at the scene or been arrested.

The incident happened when the driver was heading south on 11th and was blocked by streams of marchers walking along Broadway, witnesses said. He had a green light, but could not get through.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/02/BA5G1LQ06S.DTL#ixzz1cbz66fCw

[greyl]

25. I'm checking the livestream from Oakland now for any corroboration.

The OAK tab here: http://www.occupystream.com/

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. And I am trolling multiple nooz

Something is telling me we had multiple events. It might take up to 12 hours.

[Elsewheres Grandson]

34. Yes of course

He bribed them with Grey Poupon.

[Fire Walk With Me]

48. Grey Poupon used to be funny. Now it just makes me MAD.

:mad:

;)

[woo me with science]

44. .

Delete. Error.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. DETAILS

8:19 p.m. Details emerge from collision, festivities continue at plaza
Two people were injured when a man driving a silver Mercedes drove into a crowd of demonstrators in downtown Oakland. Several witnesses say the driver was provoked by a demonstrator who banged on the hood of his car as he attempted to turn onto a street thronged with demonstrators.
"The man who is on the ground now hit the car, and then the driver pushed on the gas," said Ayzia Robinson of Benicia.
The car was then surrounded by a mob of demonstrators as medics arrived on the scene.
"The guy who got hit by the car hit the hood of the car, and then the driver hit the gas," said a witness who gave her name as Kareena. "This is a situation where you have two people with bad decision making skills."

[nc4bo]

22. Big difference between banging a car hood (perhaps the driver was already acting an ass) and using

your vehicle as a deadly weapon.

Nothing can excuse what the driver did, nothing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. At this point I am posting from nooz sources as I find.

But you are right.

[Luminous Animal]

43. Usually people bang on the hood when the car is inching forward INTO people.

Its a warning to stop. USUALLY, the driver stops inching a ton of metal into humans... unlike this guy who decided to accelerate instead.

[WillyT]

19. K & R !!!

:wtf:

:banghead:

:kick:

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Hmmm, can't confirm

RT @blogdiva: it looks like the local CBS affiliate has CONFIRMED DEATH of man hit by "angry driver" at #OccupyOakland #GeneralStrike

I wonder just how many incidents we're talking about. You cannot both have people leave while conscious and die, unless he died in Trauma room.

[Cal Carpenter]

26. Twitter is the ONLY place where anyone is saying he died

And the last several minutes there have been many adamant tweets that it is not true.

I really don't think he died.

As EFerrari mentioned on another thread, it is quite likely that it is a rumor being spread by instigators to foment a riot.

ETA:

Phenomenon13 Phenomenon
KCBS commercial right now is for Chase Sapphire. ALSO, to repeat: CBS does NOT confirm hit-n-run death. Both victims alive.

[greyl]

28. The livestream from Oakland hasn't supported the death yet, either.

OAK tab here: http://www.occupystream.com/

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. And we might be talking of two incidents

Trolling.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. Hmm next twit

RT @TeresaTulipano: Chronicle and Mercury News both reporting both protesters were only injured - no one dead. #OccupyOakland #generalstrike #oaklandstrike

[Cal Carpenter]

32. ABC7 news tweet indicating non-life-threatening injuries most likely

abc7newsBayArea abc7newsBayArea
Unconfirmed, but we hear both #OccupyOakland protesters hit by car had non life-threatening injuries. Will update when we get official info.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Don't you find it sad here we are

Establishing facts? Only fact is driver was let go, and nobody died.

[Cal Carpenter]

36. I'm not trying to establish facts

Just tamp down rumors that can cause riots based on tweets from anonymous people. Just trying to discourage people from posting tweets as facts, which I have seen on three different threads in the last couple hours. The facts will come out when they can (and they seem to have).

It's not really sad to me, it's frustrating.

[greyl]

40. I like your post.

It's easy to get caught up in the excitement of being the 1st one to post a breaking story and neglect to either wait a few minutes for confirmation, or do the checking oneself.
Because it's so easy to get caught up with the adrenaline, people need to be extra-careful to not post rumors.

[Cal Carpenter]

45. Thank you

It also leads to accusation of blood lust, or wanting to see a martyr for the cause, or other twisted interpretations of things.

I'm not saying it is the case, and I am not defending those who assign motives to people's posts, but those accusations always come out (I saw it with the Scott Olsen situation too).

[greyl]

37. 1 more fact could be that Lucy Kafanov is a terrible reporter. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. From raw story

Citing several nooz sources. (fine news aggregator) one incident, no deaths.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/02/occupy-oakland-protesters-injured-by-car/

[Matariki]

38. ?

LucyKafanov Lucy Kafanov
@
@Newyorkist to clarify - this was NOT the incident where protesters were killed. Separate incident at port no injuries

https://twitter.com/#!/LucyKafanov

[Matariki]

39. off topic

this is funny:


LucyKafanov Lucy Kafanov:
This is insane.

Great. I'm surrounded by protesters. Voting on whether to let @RT_com through. Half support us. Half don't.

[greyl]

41. Kafanov is only repeating a rumor begun by somebody selling a video of the supposed death. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Non life threatening injuries per highland hospital

RT @marikatogo: BREAKING: Highland hospital confirms pedestrians hit at #OccupyOakland have non life threatening injuries. via @KTVU #GeneralStrike #oo

[Cal Carpenter]

42. Per Occupy Oakland press conference - NO FATALITIES

#OccupyOakland press conference says no fatalities, investigation has been opened wrt incident.

[greyl]

46. Kafanov has retracted her earlier reports as well.

"I stand corrected. CBS guys say their colleagues got video from someone who filmed on handheld. NO fatalities."
"A lot of confusion tonight. Apologize for my part in it."
"please disregard. It wasn't an official CBS report but what we were told by their crew. There were NO fatalities."

https://twitter.com/#!/LucyKafanov

[Cal Carpenter]

47. She should get a 72 hour suspension from Tweeting

I kid, I kid.

But seriously, what a fucked up thing to jump the gun about.

[Supply Side Jesus]

49. hit and run....wonder if a ticket was issued

but we know proving intent to hit a person is difficult to prove considering the situation. if someone recorded the driver laughing or making an excitable utterance, careless/reckless.... the H&R concerns me mostly. was a ticket issued or what?

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. From all the confused reporting...tweeter, papers...not clear

Just that he was let go.

Per brief ater in the night, god I am tired, OPD is doing an investigation, with witness interviews. So informed opinion, they at the very least got info from driver, he was one of the people interviewed.

[Supply Side Jesus]

51. and they got witness info also

good...this will go somewhere i believe.

they probably got the driver out of there for his/her saftey

I'd like to know more about the driver switch. someone DUI or suspended?

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. No way to know

You know it's bad reportage when we have reports of one, not two, incidents...no really one...and somebody is dead...no they are not.

It was surreal for a while.