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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:12 AM
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Arrests in Oakland right now
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/heartbraden

The people have been really nice to the police so far
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:16 AM
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1. Bunch of people singing the national anthem??? nt
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:21 AM
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2. Yea and saying "We love you" to the police.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:24 AM
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3. Now they are saying "The whole world is watching."
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 01:27 AM by MADem
The camera resolution is awful. Can't see a thing, really. I see police.


ETA--they are arresting a guy, he seems to be submitting to arrest w/no issue. He had a flag, he gave it to the cop, got down and did the hands behind the back thing.

Are they in a place that is closed at night, and expecting to be arrested or something?

2nd edit--looks like everyone is lining up to get arrested.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:26 AM
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4. Barricades are comming up
<a href="http://twitpic.com/7a6ug2" title="#occupyoakland is barricading 16th and Telegraph with dumpste... on Twitpic"><img src="" width="150" height="150" alt="#occupyoakland is barricading 16th and Telegraph with dumpste... on Twitpic"></a>

A building has been occupied, formerly the shut down traveler aide society. (Who knew I'd ever type those words outside an RPG)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:44 AM
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5. More
RT @USGeneralStrike: RT @occupyoakland Cops massing at greyhound station. Riot gear on #Solidarity Let's all stay safe tonight! #GeneralStrike #OWS #OO
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:52 AM
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6. Live stream here...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:55 AM
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7. Goddamit.
Alameda Police Dept. Rubber bullets, tear gas.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:57 AM
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8. ABC cut their aerial feed right when the police were in position.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:06 AM
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10. Shocking, ain't it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:16 AM
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15. I saw that. And correction, it's Alameda Co Sheriff's deputies.
@OakFoSho is the livestreamer. And @ProducerMatthew, whoever he is, has been misreporting shit all night. He just reported twice that there was no teargas when the teargas attack was clearly visible on the livestream and people were bathing their eyes, reporting verbally, etc. I want to watch that one.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:59 AM
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9. ustream back up live, too.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:12 AM
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12. Explosions. Lots of them.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:08 AM
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11. This time it's Alameda County Sherriff's Deputies acting as thugs
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 02:10 AM by coalition_unwilling
and goons. Presumably the County Government is far more conservative\reactionary than the City Government.

Occupy Los Angeles stands in solidarity with our heroic brothers and sisters in Oakland tonight.

1-minute "Illegal Assembly-Disperse" warning given (a couple mins ago).
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:52 AM
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17. Concord PD, too, Hayward. OPD is out but not at the center
of this incident, staying at periphery, looks like.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:12 AM
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13. @joshuahol Three flashbangs. Nonlethal rounds.
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 02:13 AM by Hissyspit
Three flashbangs. Nonlethal rounds.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:14 AM
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14. @joshuahol Police moving forward.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:44 AM
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16. Badge numbers & names of the cops are hidden.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:55 AM
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18. So, how did those guys in Concord know they were going to be needed
tonight? Psychics on the force.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:49 AM
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28. Taped over apparently
and how is that legal, I wonder. I guess when there's no accountability or repercussions then 'legal' doesn't matter anymore?
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:57 AM
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19. Am I the only DUer who's strangely (for "normal people"?) exhilarated by all this??

Not the police brutality/inevitable crackdowns of course, but... by awakening of public consciousness??
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:00 AM
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20. The threat gets my adrenaline going. It doesn't seem to know
those cops are 60 miles away.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:25 AM
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24. It's more like 2500 for me and I feel the same way, butterflies.. n/t
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:46 AM
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27. 15.1 miles for me (just checked with google maps), and... i guess, it's the subconscious fear of
being brutalized by police (along with the primary reason, being insanely busy with deadline at work) that kept me from getting my butt over there, across the Bay Bridge, for days (if not weeks).
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:23 AM
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30. Subconscious?
I wouldn't blame you for being consciously afraid of them, I don't heal as fast as I did thirty years ago and I break easier...

We are witnessing the beginning of a catastrophe, not the vernacular sense as a disaster but in the mathematical sense, an event whose outcome is impossible to predict at all, the butterfly effect. Small actions can have great consequences, one tear gas canister aimed at a young veteran galvanized a response that I suspect has shocked TPTB, their silence on it speaks far more loudly than any words they might say.



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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:40 AM
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32. i totally understand... coming from a different and less idealistic (to put it mildly) generation
though... i don't see what's happening as a "catastrophe" (let alone its "beginning"), i see it as one of our last chances (if not *the* last)...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2233705&mesg_id=2233904





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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:50 AM
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35. The one does not invalidate the other..
Most of the time change is relatively slow and proceeds in fits and starts along at least somewhat predictable lines, every now and then comes a massive change though that is completely unpredictable both as an event and as to consequences.

For want of a nail, the shoe was lost and all that..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Want_of_a_Nail_(proverb)

In evolutionary terms it's called punctuated equilibrium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuated_equilibrium
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:38 AM
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31. That's why
it's important to remember to breath well, relax shoulders, keep your cool... being part of public consciousness! :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:03 AM
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21. "I owe my soul to the company store" singing and dancing
in the street. "Welcome to Oakland"
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:09 AM
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22. Cops putting there gas masks on.
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 03:11 AM by Luminous Animal
Masked up and on the move.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:16 AM
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23. Flash bangs and tear gas. Report of cops aiming at crowd.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:35 AM
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25. the sooner the illusions of democracy/"freedom" die, the better.
at least, all may not be lost if that happens sooner rather than later, and we even might have a chance.




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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:43 AM
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26. how come it takes you fucks fifteen minutes to respond to gunshots
@bapeonion heathcliff marmaduke
by 48thave
how come it takes you fucks fifteen minutes to respond to gunshots near my house but all you motherfuckers show up on time to shoot me #oo
8 minutes ago via TweetDeck

http://twitter.com/#!/bapeonion/status/132012596533538816
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:08 AM
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29. OakFoSho is cracking me up.
Crowd is chanting "We are Oakland"

He's answering "You are Concord" "We are Oakland" "You are Fremont" "We are Oakland" "You are not from here" "WE are Oakland" "You are all white men". :rofl:

Colma, Belmont, the gang's all there.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:42 AM
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33. Oakland makes history
here's a recent writ, for knowing background and learning new lessons: http://viewpointmag.com/the-insurrection-oakland-style/
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:47 AM
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34. Big "Free Alaa" banner at Port of Oakland
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