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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:47 AM
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please DU this poll -- Is Occupy right to target Wall St?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/todaysbuzz/os-todays-buzz-occupy-wall-street-congress-110311,0,1914027.story


Was New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg right when he argued that the Occupy Wall Street protesters should really be blaming Congress for the nation's economic problems?

Yes. Congress pressured banks to give mortgages to people who couldn't repay them, sowing the seeds for the collapse of the housing market and the recession. (45 responses)
48%

No. It was Wall Street's greed for ever-larger profits, not pressure from Congress, that led banks to peddle subprime loans and engage in other high-risk activities that made the economy crash. (10 responses)
11%

Yes. Wall Street wrecked the economy, but only because Congress had stripped away the regulations that would have stopped it from happening. (22 responses)
23%

No. Wall Street is the right target for protests, because that's where the real power in America lies. Congress proved that in 2008 when it bailed out the banks with $700 billion from taxpayers. (17 responses)
18%
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:52 AM
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1. done
:patriot:
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:52 AM
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2. So far, the ayes have it
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:53 AM
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3. Done: 46/10/26/18 percent
105 total responses
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:55 AM
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4. Absolutely. There is where the dictatorship funds its stranglehold
on economic policy and the political system.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:56 AM
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5. Some one needs to introduce these folks to Phil Gramm ...
while in Congress in the 90s, he basically worked for the financial industry, wrote Gramm-Leech-Bliley, which deregulated the financial industry, and then, with those barriers removed, Phil left congress and joined the board of directors at UBS, where he made MILLIONS.

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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:58 AM
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6. Caution -- the OP question title is misleading regarding the poll. Vote NO.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 07:07 AM
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7. This is the right wing framing so that it's brought to the feet of the President. Everyone loathes
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 07:07 AM by myrna minx
Washington, but rarely do the people have an opportunity to scrutinize the real power brokers. Occupy has pulled back the curtain and this is making them all too nervous.

This poll is designed to blame Washington, thus changing the narrative. I love how one wealthy mayor has the power through the media to tell the hundreds of thousands of us what we really think and feel. Hubris!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:36 AM
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8. i think the 4th option is closest to this -- and yes, it's terribly written.
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:09 AM
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10. 'Yes' in either form blames Wall Street.
And Washington DID dance to Wall Street's tune -- as has Obama.

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:37 AM
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11. I agree with you, but the RW is trying to drag the whole mess back to Washington with their
government is BAD framing instead of focusing on the true power brokers - Wall Street and the likes of the Koch Brother barons et AL who are accountable to no one. There's plenty of blame to go around, including the President and his economic hit men Geithner and Summers, but *just* focusing on Washington fits the RW narrative. Occupy is exposing the *whole* disease, not just the corrupt symptoms.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:56 AM
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14. Agreed....It's the standard RW response: "It's Fannie and Freddie's fault"
...You know "Big Gubmint".
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:07 AM
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9. Only about a fourth of us gave the correct answer regarding lack of regulation.
But so far, three-fifths do agree that Wall Street is the culprit.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:50 AM
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12. Wow, what a loaded, b.s. selection of answers. "Congress pressured banks?"

Right. Poor babies, arms twisted into pretzels, forced to package sub-primes into over-valued mortgage backed securities, bludgeoned into abandoning any semblance of underwriting or logical debt / value ratios, raking in billions with their tired, aching backs.

That was a sad excuse when the rightwingers made it up the first time. Can't believe the Sentinel would dig it up and push it in a poll.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:11 AM
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18. Orlando Sentinel "editorial board" could use a lesson in recent history
it's really poorly written, with the first option being appealing to those least endowed with reading comprehension skills...which is a manner of bias in itself.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:51 AM
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13. Way to miss the point Orlando!
Stupid is as stupid does.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:03 AM
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16. That's the Orlando Sentinel. Orlando's Occupy movement is doing just fine.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:59 AM
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15. "Yes AND no" is closer to the truth
The main reason Congress stripped away the regulations that would have stopped Wall Street from ripping off the people in the tune of trillions of dollars is that Wall Street bullied, threatened, and otherwise exerted undue influence on the entire government to do its bidding. Even the judiciary is captured by those snakes.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:10 AM
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17. Want to protest the corporations that are screwing us over, go to Wall St.
Want to protest the government that's screwing us over, go to Wall St. Makes sense to me.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:41 AM
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19. Bloomberg spewing reich wing meme
But..but..hes a democrat! He's on our side..right??:puke::puke:

Congress is bought and paid for by wall street. Then the SCOTUS made sure nothing would stop those bastards from buying every pol they need for their fascist agenda to sail through Congress.

I blame Congress for selling out the vast majority of Americans, sure. They bailed out wall street with our money then let them walk on their crimes and paid them huge bonuses to boot! But its all that dirty wall street cash that made it possible! The right wing wants to deflect and misdirect the 99%

from their true enemies. The unrestrained capitalist raiders on wall street and the dirty corrupt anti democracy system they have imposed on us and the world as well.

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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:20 PM
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20. Bloomberg's worse than the rightwinger liars that started the "blame the poor" fabrication.

He knows enough about the financial world to know better than anyone that what he's saying is false, and he has the balls to call himself a liberal. He's disgusting.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:26 PM
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21. Most people don't get it I see.
Still blaming home loans when it was and is the derivatives. Voted yes regulations.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:29 PM
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22. Done, but I thinkI can safely say there are a lot of stupid people in Orlando...nt
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:29 PM
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23. "Yes. Wall Street wrecked the economy, but only because Congress had stripped away the regulations"
You can't protest in favor of the status quo. :shrug:
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