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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 07:40 AM
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Abusive Judge Even Less Sympathetic After Interview
Here's William Adams, the Texas court-at-law judge who was filmed beating his 16-year-old daughter with a belt, giving an interview to Corpus Christi's KZTV. Think he could come off any less sympathetic after the abuse video? Think again.

This is the full interview that was partially quoted earlier today, in which Adams describes the beating as "not as bad as it looks on tape." He claims that his daughter Hillary—who filmed the video in 2004, and uploaded it earlier this week—is "mad because I've ordered her to bring the car back, in a nutshell. Her mother was there, she wasn't hurt.. it was a long time ago.. I really don't want to get into this right now because as you can see my life's been made very difficult over this child."

One imagines that Hillary's life has been made very difficult, too. Her mother, who appears in the video, but has divorced from her father, also responded, on Facebook:

"I am praying for my daughters and me and my family to heal in all ways from emotional and physical abuse, for the current and continuing abuse of my children and me that has been ongoing to end - starting now — for my daughters to both finally be able to go to counseling both individually and as a family group with their Dad's approval, encouragement, involvement and support, for him to finally make amends to all of us, talk openly with us, and take the first steps to letting our broken family heal."

Hillary Adams would seem to agree: "we do need to try to move on past the anger and just concentrate on getting counseling and help."

http://gawker.com/5855901/abusive-judge-even-less-sympathetic-after-interview

You can see the video at the link above
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 07:48 AM
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1. This fucker doesn't need to make amends. This fucker needs to be arrested.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:45 PM
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24. It's past the statue of limitations. But they are looking to remove him from his job
which is good since the father works in family court and tends to rule over child abuse cases.
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 02:46 PM
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28. Aha. The irony is too much, though. Glad to see the young woman
is standing up to him now. He shouldn't be let anywhere NEAR a courtroom, let alone abused children! :hi:
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:47 PM
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35. His wife left him, too
Even his ex-wife said he terrorized the entire family. He's a monster, especially behind closed doors.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:46 PM
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34. What's the statue of limitations for this? n/t
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:50 PM
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36. Five years for non-felony child abuse.
If they could prove a felony, it would be extended to ten years...but that would require the prosecutor to show evidence that she suffered serious injuries from the beating. If CPS had been involved right away and found welts, they might have had evidence to do so, but at this point they can't.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:52 PM
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37. Crap. Thank you. n/t
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:22 PM
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40. They've already decided to let him off -
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 07:18 AM
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43. Two weeks off - with pay.
"County officials confirmed that Adams would not hear cases related to child protection for at least the next two weeks"

Cannot find email, but the "senior elected official" in this fine Texas county ( http://www.aransascountytx.gov/main/ ) is apparently:

Aransas County Judge C. H. "Burt" Mills, Jr.
His office phone is: 361-790-0100

As a Texas resident, I plan on calling and asking why Adams will ever be hearing any sort of cases ever again. I know this is Texas, but there are limits.





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localroger Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 07:52 AM
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2. Hizzoner is used to getting his way
He has not quite grokked yet that this internet thing is not going to go like the rest of his interpersonal relationships.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:05 AM
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12. Yup. Judges Are An Odd Breed Of People
I spent four years as a technical trainer for the Department of Justice. I traveled the country and got to meet lots of interesting folks in lots of cities. Judges always stood out though. That's not to say they were all bad. I actually met some very cool judges. One of them introduced me to the tattoo artist responsible for doing a full back piece on my that took 18 hours. On the other hand, some of them were the most temperamental, stubborn mother fuckers I've ever had to work with. There were at least two occasions when I had judges - and keep in mind we're talking about grown men (and women) - throw red-faced temper tantrums and storm out of a training session. I had more than one case in which a judge, angry that they had to learn some new bit of technology, threatened to make sure that "that tattooed, bearded freak (me) isn't going work here anymore!"

I guess they become so accustomed to people not talking back to them and sitting in a position of power that they don't realize all that deferment ends as soon as they take off their robes and walk out into public.

It's about to get real for this chump. "Fucking Computers" indeed.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 07:55 AM
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3. "because as you can see my life's been made very difficult over this child"
Oh you poor baby.
:nopity:
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:59 AM
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9. That line made me sick to my stomach
Literally. I read it and felt ill. You SOB...that child is your f-ing responsibility and is a human being who f-ing relies on you!
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:10 AM
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14. Exactly.
That line made me see red.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:09 AM
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13. I like how he's blaming the kid and not his own actions with that line.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:24 AM
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17. "Look what you made me do."
Classic abuser.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 07:57 AM
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4. "my life's been made very difficult over this child."
"I'm an abusive domineering dominionist fuck who has been inconvenienced by the fact that I've been caught."

It's like he simply doesn't get why what he did is wrong or why the rest of the world is making such a big flapping DEAL over this. He needs field-goal kicked in the balls with cleats is what he needs. Fucking shit.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:37 AM
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5. Many people think this is appropriate disciplinary action...
and are proud of their parenting skills when they discuss beating their kids.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:46 AM
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18. +1
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 09:47 AM by redqueen
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:20 PM
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32. My grandfather on my father's side told me I had it easy
After all, when his father would beat him, he'd see "all four walls and the floor".

If there were webcams back in those days, my father would have been brought up on charges. After all, he was too smart to leave a mark when he beat the hell out of us.

:eyes:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:43 AM
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6. Lock him in a cell with a pistol with one bullet.
It should only take a few days before he blows his own brains out...
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:46 AM
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7. Sounds like he's perfect for a family-court judge in Texas.
;-)

But even here, he may be facing a big comeuppance. Or not -- after all, it is Texas.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:52 AM
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8. As a society we need to discuss why beating children is called "discipline" -
yet if he tried to do this to a random person on the street it would be "battery" - punishable by a jail term. WTF is wrong with people?
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:00 AM
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10. It's in the Bible
Therefore, it must be ok. That's the line of reasoning.

Hitting a child is never ok.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:12 AM
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15. Amazing how they blame these aberrant behaviors on
fictional accounts and imaginary folks floating around in the clouds. And get away with it.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 11:55 AM
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19. Religion is a powerful method for self actualization
but is also a powerful way to justify one's weaknesses.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:46 PM
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26. Not in the gospels
that's for sure
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:54 PM
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29. This is not in your Bible???
Matthew 15:4-7 - Jesus says to kill your disobedient children

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it. 15:4-7
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:06 PM
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31. Sounds like Jesus was being sarcastic. He talked about a new covenant.
The Pharisees criticize Jesus for not following one of the old rules. He responds by asking them about another of the old rules, one that they were unlikely to follow. Jesus was making the point that some of those old rules weren't worth following.

It's interesting because in the present day, some people who are opposed to equal rights for gay people use Biblical passages to justify their belief that gay people should be put to death, etc. Other Christians often respond by pointing out other Biblical passages that nobody follows anymore, such as the prohibition against wearing mixed fabrics or the requirement that women be forced to marry their rapists.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:25 PM
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41. Jesus bullied a lot of people, according to the New Testament.
MARK

Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell. 4:11-12

Jesus sends devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. When the people hear about it, they beg Jesus to leave. 5: 12-13

Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6: 11

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7: 9-10

Jesus tells us to cut off our hands and feet, and pluck out our eyes to avoid going to hell. 9: 43-49

God is like a rich man who owns a vineyard and rents it to poor farmers. When he sends servants to collect the rent, the tenants beat or kill them. So he sent his son to collect the rent, and they kill him too. Then the owner comes and kills the farmers and gives the vineyard to others. 12: 1-9

Jesus tells his disciples to eat his body and drink his blood. 14: 22-24

Jesus says that those that believe and are baptized will be saved, while those who don't will be damned. 16:16

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Jesus was a cruel, vindictive hateful judgmental guy, according to many parts of the bible.
I think the people who wrote the bible (long after the alleged jesus died) were not capable or sarcasm, since there is no interest in science or logical thinking or using intelligence to find the truth.

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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:02 AM
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11. Are there any videos of a grown man beating William Adams with a belt?
If not, could we start on production?


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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:13 AM
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16. I'd Like To Volunteer To Wield The Belt
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 01:02 PM
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27. Pick me. I'll take the hide off his back.
That's if I don't rip his face off first.
That shit happened to me. 40 years ago. You don't get over it, never.
I saw 90 seconds of that video and the rest of the day's been a flashback for me.
Bet that fucker doesn't have the balls to stand up to somebody who will hit back.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:00 PM
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Me, too
It was a bit more than 40 years ago but, between us, that doesn't seem all that long ago.

My dad was good with the belt and the switch. He'd make me pick my own switch off a tree in the backyard, then whip me with it until it broke and would send me out for a "good" one. I can recall returning with a branch one time in a vain attempt to shame him. Nope, it just increased the rage.

Watching that video was like climbing in a wayback machine.

I'll bet there are a lot of people our age who can relate. Probably far too many.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 05:07 AM
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42. Yeah, I can relate. It sure did bring back memories.
When I was a 16 year old girl, I got the exact same treatment.

I ended up with black and blue, 4 inch stripes all up, down and across my legs.

I was so ashamed, I didn't want to wear the shorts they made us put on for gym class. But I had no choice.

When I put them on, the gym teacher, along with about 5 of her best pupils, all made jokes about my injuries.

Those were the days when child abuse was just another fun family activity.

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:27 PM
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33. I don't have the guts to watch that video
>Bet that fucker doesn't have the balls to stand up to somebody who will hit back.<

He's a bully and a batterer, especially to those who could never fight back.

>You don't get over it, never.<

No, you don't.

If there's a Hell, I'd like to think that those who beat the shit out of defenseless children will be in an extra-toasty corner of it.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:26 PM
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20. I hadn't/couldn't watch the video until now. Had to stop it. Words fail me. nt
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:41 PM
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22. Could only tolerate a few seconds of the video, and I have this to say...
in response to his insistence that it "looks worse than it is".


Mike Tyson in a bad mood wielding a heavy leather belt, whacking the shit out of that judge.


Then we'll see if it's actually worse than it really is
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:44 PM
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23. BTW I read the father was suing for custody of Hillary's younger sister
The girl in the video has a 10 year old sister and the father was suing for custody. So I'm wondering if the video was released to ensure Dad does not get the girl.

I know the Mom was also in the video beating on Hillary but from what I have read the Mom and Hillary have since reconciled and that the mom has alot of remorse for what happened.

I'm guessing the father is one of those uber religious people who believes the family needs to submit to his will or suffer the strap.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:04 PM
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38. The mom was being physically and mentally abused as well...
...from what I've read. It looks like she took the belt from him in the video to get him to stop and hit her on the butt, but not terribly hard to get him off of her. While not OK, I think her intentions were good.
Duckie
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 09:20 AM
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45. Mother's like that are why neighbors and strangers call child protective services
I had a mother like that. She never sought help, even when help from police was just phone call away.





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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:45 PM
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25. "not as bad as it looks on tape."
To borrow from Lisa Simpson's "Nothing could be as fun as that looks", nothing could be as bad as that tape looked. It was awful.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 04:00 PM
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30. Good LORD.

The man's an insensate nitwit. Leaving his grotesque behavior aside, what an idiotic thing to say.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:20 PM
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39. He is a fucking monster. And the wife is a monster, too.
That is a horrifying video.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 09:01 AM
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44. I believe these parents KNEW this was monsterous
That's why before the beating the lights get turned off and the other kid is led out of the room.

Those were conscious rational acts to hide their brutality from others. It's evidence that it wasn't a moment of lost temper akin to temporary insanity. You wouldn't want to be seen by neighbors, you wouldn't even want your shadow to be cast on the shades when you are abusing your kid.

They knew it was wrong, but they went ahead and did it. Just in a manner they thought wouldn't make them accountable.

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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 11:08 AM
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46. I didn't have the courage to watch the video online
but it's been all over the news now. I guess it was inevitable I'd have to witness it and relive the hell that was my childhood.

Flashback City, sigh. The pain, shame, and rage are still as fresh for me as if it was yesterday, but it has been 40 years. I was taught at the end of a belt, switch, cane, hairbrush, anything-within-reach to be a doormat. I still have physical scars where the blood was cut out of my legs.

It took another 25 years, two abusive relationships, and a goodly amount of soul-searching to unlearn it. I am totally against violence, especially that visited on people who should be most protected from it, like children, seniors, the sick, the disabled.

It was that second trip to the ER from a "partner" who in the lulls between explosions claimed to love me more than anything on earth that did it for me. In the aftermath of that episode, I realized I didn't have to settle for anything less than a peaceful life. If that meant I had to live alone for the rest of my life, that was fine. I finally found myself.

Even though that "judge" probably needs a thorough ass-whipping himself, life will visit on him far worse. To me, the worst possible punishment for people like that is to die alone; old, decrepit, and thoroughly unloved. That's exactly where he's headed and he's the type who won't realize it until the moment he leaves this earth. Then it will be far too late. It will be a hell of his own devising. That's what happened to my grandmother; that's what happened to my dad; and that's exactly what will happen to him.

The sweetest revenge is to outlive the mf'ers, at peace in one's own skin.

Bravo to his daughter for realizing she's fine, whole, and strong on her own.

In the end, I got lucky. I have a fine man who loves me dearly as I do him. He went through much of the same childhood hell as I did, but came to the same conclusions I did. We have a peaceful home, filled with love, respect, and happy dogs. This is the life I wish for Adams' daughter.
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