Ah Hah!! A new twist in the Cain story...he planted it all himself!!!!

[Sheepshank]

I was sitting around chatting with co-workers.

A new theory was raised....from a rabid Rep. It could even have some merit. Here are the pertinent points:

1. Anything and everything nefarious or potentially questionable in a candidates background, will eventually come to light. Everything.

2. Cain knows this.

3. Voters have short term memories.

4. Bring this up now and get it out of the way early. Give constituents time to forget or get over it.

5. Other Republican candidates are likely to ignore this issue or downplay the issue.

6. By the time Election Day arrives, it becomes a non-issue.

7. Cain is controlling the timing of the message.

[MADem]

1. No one plants sex charges. Plus, one of the victims is going to speak publicly on the matter. NT

[Sheepshank]

8. Sexual harrassment, fyi, isn't always about sex.

actions that create a hostile work envorinment is in the same category.

[MADem]

13. Yes, I do realize that. However, in the minds of the public, a sexual harasser is a perv.

The "hostile work environment" thing--in the minds of the public, if not the victim--is secondary.

The sense of Cain as a sexual harasser is not that of a guy being mean in the workplace, using sexual insult/degradation as an enforcement tool. The sense of him is as a leering pervert, trying to get himself a little sugar on the side, and that "long smile" ad doesn't disabuse anyone of that perspective.

[Juneboarder]

2. Cain wishes he were that intelligent... nt

[krispos42]

3. He has about 3 months.

If he doesn't will early in the primaries, he's dead. So he'll have to get it out of the way in a pretty tight time frame.


Now, remember, Republicans LOVE their serial adulterers, so it might not be a factor. They seem to have no problem deciding that God forgave a particular Repube candidate, or that it's not their place to judge a Repube, or whatever.

:shrug:

Bring back Michele Bachmann.

[tabatha]

4. It is amazing how Reps make up shit

to twist facts to suit their aspirations.

[TwilightGardener]

5. He doesn't control this, though--it involves at least several other people.

This isn't something that he can just put out there and then make it go away, the way one might if they admitted to stealing when they were a kid or something like that.

[PoliticAverse]

6. Stranger things have happened, but if this were true I think he would have handled it better...

than he has.

[MindandSoul]

10. How much "better" do you think he could have handled such a nasty little secret?

Look at who benefits from it:

1. He is now the "victim" with lots of supporters flocking to defend him
2. He has never raised so much money
3. His major opponents (Romney and Perry) both have a "cloud of doubt" over their heads from "maybe" have been the source of the revelation.
4. The Right is also pointing the finger to the Liberals!
5. Fox News is rallying all it's sheep through the overly dramatic "let's save Cain" coverage
6. It's far enough from the GOP primary that it will be all gone by the time people have to vote.
7. It will NEVER again be a big issue, because the element of "surprise" has gone out of it
8. It keep Cain on the news 24/7, and we all know that there is no such thing as "bad publicity," especially when it is free!

So. ..how much more could he ask for. . . considering that, guilty of not, he was accused of sexual harrassement and women were paid off!

[MindandSoul]

11. How much "better" do you think he could have handled such a nasty little secret?

Look at who benefits from it:

1. He is now the "victim" with lots of supporters flocking to defend him
2. He has never raised so much money
3. His major opponents (Romney and Perry) both have a "cloud of doubt" over their heads from "maybe" have been the source of the revelation.
4. The Right is also pointing the finger to the Liberals!
5. Fox News is rallying all it's sheep through the overly dramatic "let's save Cain" coverage
6. It's far enough from the GOP primary that it will be all gone by the time people have to vote.
7. It will NEVER again be a big issue, because the element of "surprise" has gone out of it
8. It keep Cain on the news 24/7, and we all know that there is no such thing as "bad publicity," especially when it is free!

So. ..how much more could he ask for. . . considering that, guilty of not, he was accused of sexual harrassement and women were paid off!

[MindandSoul]

7. Yes, that's my idea too! In fact, I posted that in a couple of other forums

One more advantage of "doing the job yourself" in addition to the "pick the most opportune time" is "give your biggest opponents a bad name and gather more 'sympathy' from your followers by alluding that THEY (your opponents) are playing dirty and abusing you!"

A win/win situation. . .more money in the bank, lots of publicity (and we all know there is no "bad" publicity), and this keeps the REAL questions that matters (jobs, foreign policy, taxes) from being asked!

[sufrommich]

9. Because his political opposition will in no way attempt

to keep the scandal in the public eye, right? Your co worker must not know how campaigns work.

[MindandSoul]

12. Doesn't matter. . .first, have you noticed that his opposition

has NEVER gone on the attack on this issue, but has been put in a position to DEFEND itself, while Cain has become the "victim" that the sheep are gathering around to "protect" from the evil doers who "allegedly" brought such a distasteful issue into light?

Look who is coming out on top here. . .maybe you need to rethink the way political campaigns have been run lately!

[Sheepshank]

14. And the fact that he is being portrayed as the VICTIM

...is his biggest ace in the hole.

[MindandSoul]

23. Absolutely!

[sufrommich]

15. I'm talking about his democratic opposition if he made it

past the primaries. Teabaggers may be willing to forget and forgive, but a national electorate is a whole 'nother story.

[EC]

18. A Democrat would have waited

until next Oct. if he had made it that far.

[MindandSoul]

22. Exactly!

[MindandSoul]

24. By then, it would be "old news," and have lost its power. The

new supporters that Cain is gaining TODAY because of his "victim" role are precious to get him through the primaries, then. . .even those who kind of condemn him today would rally around him in the fight against Obama!

No. . .perfectly timed. . .I still believe it was "planned" to come out this way, to be used this way by Cain and his campaign!

[Gidney N Cloyd]

16. I'm still thinking it seems Rovian.

Attack Cain but get people to think Perry leaked it. Slap fight ensues. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

[EC]

17. No merit.

The other candidates WILL bring it up (or their PACS will) the Primary elections aren't that far off, no one will forget by then, (your RW friend is thinking of the Pres. election and Cain still has to get through the primaries).


I think Cain is just a grifter (just like Palin)who didn't think anyone would find out or didn't take the settlements and harassment seriously (to him they were just "innocent fun"). This has Rove all over it. Cain became the #1 during the Florida straw poll, just after Perry started making it big. Rove hates Perry and wanted to knock him off, so he goes down to Florida (Rove was in Florida for this straw poll) and brings friends to vote in straw poll (remember these are the polls that the candidates bus people in to vote for them) and viola! Cain wins and Perry is a memory. Rove wouldn't push Cain into the front-running position unless he had something on him he could release later, again, viola! Sexual-harassment charges and the cherry on top? One of Perry's PAC managers knew about the harrassment and was even present when it accured ...2 birds knocked-off with one stone.


On edit: I'm sure Rove has more to come...

[Sheepshank]

19. I'm all a tingle with these conspiracies...and this one does sound probable n/t

[gkhouston]

25. It would be probable (albeit not likely) if Cain were handling this well.

He isn't. Also, it seems unlikely that sort of people who would engage in harassment (i.e., either think it's no big deal or lack control over their own behavior) would possess the insight necessary to admit their action. A sort of "I'll never get caught" magical thinking seems common, IMO.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

20. I'll add a twist to your twist. he leaked it himself because he just wanted to get sell some books a

get a gig with Jabba The Ailes. He wasn't expecting to actually get anywhere near this nomination. He doesn't want this job. he just wants to make more loot. :evilgrin: :crazy:

[On the Road]

21. Highly Unlikely It Was Planted by His Staff

Karl Rove wants nothing to do with the Cain campaign.