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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 03:53 PM Original message |
Black Bloc tactics, whatever their source, |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Question. Why does everyone call them the "black bloc"? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Here you go and I agree with the OP re: the overall uselessness of this tactic. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. "administering first aid to persons affected by tear gas in areas where protesters are barred" . . |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Get em on your side |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Who put those rules together - Anastasio Somoza? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Much older than Somoza |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Yup. Haymarket bomb. Pinkerton's were pioneers in that sorta false-flag provocation. |
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louslobbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
42. +1 |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I actually don't have a problem with that part so much as |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Anon Medics was arrested last night and is in Santa Rita right now. nt |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Like red crosses/crescents on tops of trucks. Easy targets for thugs. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. What I want to know is how the Concord police knew that there would be |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Indeed, it is interesting. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Were you able to catch Spencer's live stream last night? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I watched it until I fell asleep in front of the computer at 2:00 AM! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. I might as well have gotten drunk with those folks |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yep! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Tell me 'bout it |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. TIME article |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Also arrested: several reporters and legal observers |
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dtexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. They're likely not meant to aid it, rather to destroy it. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't see why people get so upset over a couple of broken windows. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. They sacked the treasury and all I got was this lousy broken window. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. So, if it doesn't hurt the target, and it does distract attention, what's the point? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. ding! ding! winner! |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. So far, OWS has done a great job of distancing itself from this stuff |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. Is some eyes only |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
15. I sense they are agent provocateurs |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You mean like this little Right-wing runt (and his beefy pal)? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Is that O'Keefe? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. O'Keefe wannabe named Patrick Howley, a Jr. Editor at Amer. Spectator rag |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Two undercover cops were caught on video posing as protesters |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Yep: |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. I agree. But how do we stop them? They're not part of OWS, |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
23. And just how do you propose preventing them from it? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Ding,ding,ding |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. "Internal security" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. No, there are other ways to do this |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. The problem is, some of their activity yesterday was some distance away from OWS |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. One of those was stopped by tactical formation by vets |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I don't understand your question but the Whole Foods attack was a mile away |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Not at whole foods but per twitter shit heads were stopped |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Maybe they don't want to arrest each other. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
24. It is not seen as part of this movement except by |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. Spongebob Squarepants reruns, whenever they air . . . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I think the other 34, 982 people who were out yesterday deserve equal time. |
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louslobbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
41. I agree MineralMan, thanks for sharing the comment K&R n/t |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
45. The group of vets that just marched would agree with you |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
47. Yep |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I have no trouble ignoring the media when it gets things wrong. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
50. OWS and cops agree, these anarchists are not part of this |
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