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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:17 PM
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Drew Richards List of OWS demands or Platform.
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 10:39 PM by Drew Richards
Edited title to be more PC to some.

1. Repeal Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act reinstate Glass-Stegall and Regulation Q

2. Enact sweeping power to the CFPB to arrest, fine, seize assets and prosecute violations of the 1986 fair trade act.

3. End all foreign aggression and recall all troops to established bases or home bases.

4. Slash the Pentagon military budget by 1/3rd and invest monies in infrastructure jobs.

5. Freeze for two years ALL foreign aid AND foreign subsidies to other "industrialized" countries. (for example we borrow 2 trillion from China and send them 320 billion in foreign aid? WTF)

6. Repeal the entire Patriot Act and re-institute FISA regulations on all surveillance.

7. Repeal Citizen United decision. Abolish corporate person-hood via constitutional amendment that was established from the partisan Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United.

8. Institute judicial code of conduct for Supreme Court justices that ALL other justices in the country are required to adhere to.

9. Immediately repeal Bush tax cuts and increase taxes back to tax rate of Reagan's last two years of his presidency. (bigger even than Clinton's)

10. Discontinue all subsidies to raw material energy suppliers (coal, oil, gas), and energy producing facilities and corporations (plants and their parent corporations).

11. Establish Single-Payer Open enrollment to Medicare and Medicaid with a co-pay flex rate for pre-existing conditions.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:19 PM
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1. Go down to local occupy and submit it to ga.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:22 PM
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3. I wish I could but presently I can't leave the home. I get time enough to shop once a week and thats
it for my out of the home time.

I am the Primary care giver for my terminally ill mother.

You are welcome to take it for me though.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:23 PM
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4. I will.
:-).

Will explain situation.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:25 PM
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7. Thank you :)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:30 PM
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8. In fact sent sans comment to regular locally
With no comment.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:22 PM
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2. Who, exactly, do you think has the authority to "repeal [the] Citizen[s] United decision?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:24 PM
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5. A couple senators are talking bout it
And liked Dred Scott...the USSC.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:24 PM
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6. Actually Congress has the power to nullify via constitutional admendment.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:30 PM
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9. Not by themselves, they don't. It requires ratification by at least 38 states.
That would take time.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:33 PM
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11. So did ending the Vietnam war and getting Equal Rights...too bad time is now my enemy.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:32 PM
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10. The notion that anyone, including any OWS organization can issue demands is laughable.
And OWS recognizes that. We must build the infrastructure first in order to ensure that demands have a reasonable expectation of being fulfilled.


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:34 PM
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12. Committes of correspondence
Same dynamic, different century. I am sure Parlaiment had the same reaction.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:34 PM
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13. Would you agree to build an "Infrastructure" you must first have a Platform? This is what this is...
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:49 PM
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15. No, I do not agree. I believe that you must 1st have a list of grievance that
stipulates the problems in order for people to discuss the solutions.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 11:22 PM
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16. Funny I can interpret the list of grievences from the platform I present but,

Please let me hear yours.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 11:36 PM
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18. Please see post #17. I meant to reply here but erred.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:45 PM
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14. Not flawless, but pretty effin' good.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 11:35 PM
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17. A list of grievances expresses the problem. Let the people come up with solutions.
Most people would not have a clue as to what the Gramm-Leach-Billy Act is. Or Glass-Stegall. Or Regulation Q. And, perhaps, better solutions to any of those (and any of your other demands) could come about through a robust discussion.


The Declaration of Independence was a list of grievances. 11 years after and subsequent to much public education and private discussion and a war, the Constitution of the United States was drafted in order to address that list.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 11:38 PM
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19. LOL! ok you caught me...I was thinking like a scientist not a politician wil note it for future thx
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 11:44 PM
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20. I'm not thinking as a politician either. I am thinking as an activist and the value of not only
educating the citizenry to the problem but trusting us to come up with the solution.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 11:48 PM
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21. Drew, this is a wonderful list. Would you have any objections if
I shared it with the Demands and Objectives Committee of Occupy Los Angeles? It might help focus committee members' attention a little, I think.

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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 11:56 PM
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22. Please you are welcome to it. If they need detailed information on each point I can
Write them some documentation with supporting references, explanations and historical precedence if required.

Although it would be sporadic and when I have the time to do the work I am sorry.

Although some legal details will have to be gone over through the law database's.

If they have lawyers handy they probably have their own resources but here is Duke University's X-law database list....

http://www.law.duke.edu/lib/lresources

You can site and source easily from here.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 04:42 PM
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24. I forgot one...End Corporate Tax loopholes that allow
Edited on Fri Nov-04-11 04:44 PM by Drew Richards

12. End Corporate Tax loopholes. Allowing Corporations to mislabel themselves small business's for tax purposes and allow them to illegally offshore profits to avoid US taxation.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 12:41 AM
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23. For clarification on what the points mean in a nutshell I bracket them
Edited on Fri Nov-04-11 12:46 AM by Drew Richards
Strange brackets deleted comments re-introduced parentheses instead.

1. Repeal Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act reinstate Glass-Stegall and Regulation Q (restore regulations against banks and investments gambling with your money without monetary assets)

2. Enact sweeping power to the CFPB to arrest, fine, seize assets and prosecute violations of the 1986 fair trade act. (protect consumers from predatory practices)

3. End all foreign aggression and recall all troops to established bases or home bases. (cease all of bush's illegal wars and Colonialism. We got Osama time to get out)

4. Slash the Pentagon military budget by 1/3rd and invest monies in infrastructure jobs. (Pentagon papers anyone? bloated over expenditure not needed)

5. Freeze for two years ALL foreign aid AND foreign subsidies to other "industrialized" countries. (for example we borrow 2 trillion from China and send them 320 billion in foreign aid? WTF) (why are we borrowing and subsidizing over a hundred nations? we are not the worlds police force OR piggy bank, let's take care of our own first)

6. Repeal the entire Patriot Act and re-institute FISA regulations on all surveillance. (Totally unconstitutional rape of civil liberties)

7. Repeal Citizen United decision. Abolish corporate person-hood via constitutional amendment that was established from the partisan Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United. (Theft of our democratic voting process through unlimited monies by domestic and partially FOREIGN owned corporations)

8. Institute judicial code of conduct for Supreme Court justices that ALL other justices in the country already are required to adhere to. (The Supreme should be held to a higher standard not NO STANDARD of ethics)

9. Immediately repeal Bush tax cuts and increase taxes back to tax rate of Reagan's last two years of his presidency. (bigger even than Clinton's) (under Reagan and Clinton both once taxes on the rich went up, jobs grew and the average median income rose Until Clinton second term and tech bubble pop in 2000)

10. Discontinue all subsidies to raw material energy suppliers (coal, oil, gas), and energy producing facilities and corporations (plants and their parent corporations).(These pigs have been at the trough for 60 years, If they can't live on their 30+ bil a year income they should be taken over nationally)

11. Establish Single-Payer Open enrollment to Medicare and Medicaid with a co-pay flex rate for pre-existing conditions. (end to price gouging, death panels and to Promote the "General Welfare" of the entire populous)
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