JohnWxy
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:38 PM
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Coyote Shot Dead In Beacon Hill Neighborhood |
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Coyote Shot Dead In Beacon Hill Neighborhood Sad, once a famous author ('In Cold Blood'), now this.
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:46 PM
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1. What were they supposed to do? n/t |
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:48 PM
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My neighborhood has a small pack - they kill our rats. Everyone knows to take their pets in at night and all is well.
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:59 PM
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4. We have open season on them here and they are shot |
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every day and yet their numbers keep increasing. They said it appeared to be injured and sick.
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:08 PM
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5. We've been trying to get the coyotes that are here on the farm |
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The foal we had last week was the first born in a stall for years. Usually the mares prefer to have the babies outside, but with a first time Mama out in a pasture by herself and a pair of very large, healthy, aggressive coyotes around, we weren't taking any chances.
These coyotes have been hunting deer in the pastures in the daytime and come right up near the house around noon on a regular basis. They are so big I almost thought they were some German shepherds, except no one in the neighborhood own shepherds.
If we can kill the coyotes, I will be happy. They've injured deer but not finished them off, leaving lame and sickly deer in the local herd. They have chased off the grey foxes that were here for the last couple of years. They may have taken our old feral barn kitty - we haven't seen her for over a month and although we've looked, we have not found a body, either. And the coyotes are big enough to take a foal, which is the whole reason for owning the farm.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:29 PM
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18. I'm sorry for your horsies. I love horses. I wanted to be a jockey. |
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Regardless, I find the comment about running off the foxes absurd. I haven't seen a grey fox in years - but we have some in the neighborhood once the coyotes moved in.
We can't own livestock in the city, but the coyotes are wild, therefore, I don't blame you for needing to kill the coyotes - and I'm sure if the pups survive in our clan and they take over, we will, too, but I think in my neck of the "woods" (old suburbia), they won't grow too much because of lack of food.
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:49 AM
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20. The foxes were already stressed so it wouldn't have taken much to run them off |
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They had a couple of very good years and had produced litters of pups that had no where to move away. Year before last, there were three adult and four immature grey foxes here - in addition to the red foxes that were introduced by the fox hunters.
Last year there was a population crash among the squirrels and the foxes were all thin. The immature ones were malnourished and suffering from mange. We managed to trap one with the help of a wildlife rescue group. They tried for over a month to bring her back to health but she got an opportunistic infection that did not respond to antibiotics. At least two other young foxes had mange at least as severe but we never could trap them.
I think in all truth, the coyotes just took advantage of the foxes weakness and either ran off the adults or finished them off. There is the possibility that the foxes have just moved to another area, but we are now surrounded by "ranchette" subdivisions )3-4 acre parcels, not big enough for livestock but larger than normal yards, no livestock allowed by the HOA) and they would be very discreet about where they would be seen. I have heard what I thought was a fox barking down in our woods, but they do not have a den where they were last year when I would see them every evening. It's been over six months since I've seen any foxes.
Hunting is still good for the coyotes, even if the squirrels are not are common ( or have become more cautious). While a friend was out in the field staking out where we have seen the coyotes hunting, there were eight deer scattered around him, grazing. They were more bold with the hunter there. I suspect they knew that the coyotes knew the hunter was there and would not be around. The deer are very casual about humans since they have not been hunted on this property for thirty years. That may the solution for the coyotes - if we take out enough deer the hunting will not be so good for the coyotes.
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:54 PM
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3. We have a lot them out where I live |
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some nights it sounds like they're right outside my window. They are great for keeping the feral cat population down.
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:53 PM
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9. So you use feral coyotes to keep the feral cat populations down. |
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I think I'd rather have more cats and fewer coyotes.
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:55 PM
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10. Tell that to the millions of birds |
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not to mention the other wildlife, that an invasive species such as feral cats kill each year..
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:23 PM
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6. It doesn't say so in this story, but I saw this on the local news the other night |
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Some reports say the environmental police didn't have a tranquilizer gun available, other's go with the more vague "tried everything they could to tranquilize the animal" (well, if you have a tranq gun, how about shooting it).
If they didn't have access to a tranq gun, I have to ask, how do the environmental police NOT have a tranq gun available?
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:24 PM
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7. Well, that's just ugly. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:46 PM
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8. Doesn't make any diff.... |
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whether people love coyotes or hate them. Doesn't make any diff if people shot/trap/poison them. (Very hard on the individual coyote, however.)
Coyotes are expanding their range and their numbers within their range. They are getting bigger, too, as the Northeast has coyotes with wolf genes from crosses.
Coyotes are a fact of life, and we have to adapt to them. A lot of people have a hard time with that, but it's true.
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:12 PM
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:57 PM
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11. We have a bumper crop of coyotes this year. |
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Three times in the last month it has sounded like they were having a huge party in my backyard at 2AM. I don't have pets anymore so they're not likely to hurt anything and I like to listen to them. It sounds like they're having a great time.
When I had pets and the coyotes wouldn't stay away I found that a 12ga. loaded with #4 buckshot works wonders. Out to about 45 yards if you center the pattern on them there's no suffering (they drop like a wet dishrag) and survivors learn quickly to stay away. The effect lasts about two to three years before it needs to be repeated.
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:40 PM
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13. unless there`s a threat to humans... |
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chicago uses coyotes for rat and other varmint control.
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:44 PM
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14. Dogs are the danger... |
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about 20 people per year killed by dogs in the US vs. one death by coyote since 1980.
The young woman killed by a pack of "coyotes" in the Canadian Maritimes a couple of years ago doesn't count. Those dudes have enough wolf in them that they need a new species designation.
People only get bit if they try to feed them.
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:47 PM
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:51 PM
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16. We have at least 6 Coyotes living across our road |
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and we've never had a poroblem with them. Everyone in our neighbor enjoys watching them when you can spot them...
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Tue Jan-18-11 08:45 PM
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17. The coyotes around here snag a neighborhood cat or two each year. |
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Otherwise, they are harmless.
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:33 PM
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19. We have plenty of coyotes where I live but the |
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Cougars prey on them, so they keep the population down.
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:53 AM
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21. I don't understand your famous author reference |
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