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Fri Nov-04-11 04:45 PM
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Why Romney could be the Obama Campaigns worst nigtmare... |
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First off, according to the USA today, president Obama and former governor Romney are neck in neck in the key swing states that candidate Obama won in 2008.
Second, even though most of us thinks Mr. Romney is a bit of a putz, he does have a history of delivering a "moderate", for a republican, vision based not on what he says but on what he did while governor of Mass.
Think about it for a moment, if you are a moderate independent and believe in a woman's right to choose, you could very well be willing to over look what Romney says versus what he did.
Look, he is not well liked by the republican base, but I think he could tack back to the middle a lot easier than any of those other clowns.
That polling in those swing states is bothersome.
It is still president Obama's race to loose. But the people in the middle, those people who don't pay that close attention to the day to day machinations of the political wars, might decide to give Mitt a chance by thinking he is NOT a right wing wacko.
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:48 PM
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1. don't get me wrong, but I hope YOU are wrong.. this is scary. Then, of course, |
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when the campaign is in full swing, I think Obama has a lot of "ammunition" to use in ads against Romney.
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:49 PM
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2. Believe me I hope he gets Cain or Perry... |
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But Romney could be more of a problem than most of us seem to think...
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:52 PM
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6. I'm liking that Cain and Perry are neck and neck... let them destroy each other... ha! |
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:12 PM
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28. Romney will suffice. Romney has serious historical and current problems. nt |
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:50 PM
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3. I dunno....I think we have an ace in the hole.... |
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:52 PM
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4. Or 'lose'. Either way, I don't see the base moving to the middle. |
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I don't think anyone believes Romney is a radical. Their party has moved way to the right, but how likely is it that teabaggers will hold their nose and vote for him?
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:53 PM
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7. I'm thinking that this time around, they will go with Cain. Cain might very well win the nominatio |
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:59 PM
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10. It's not the GOP base that I am worried about... |
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It's the independents that worry me...
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Fri Nov-04-11 05:46 PM
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17. Are there enough 'independents' to make a difference? |
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Every repug I know claims they are an 'inde' since they were embarrassed by bush, but they still repeat the talking points.
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Fri Nov-04-11 05:49 PM
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18. If Romney is the nominee, you can bet the Republicans will vote for him. |
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Even the Teabaggers.
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:52 PM
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5. And Romney has Reagan's HAIR!!!! |
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:55 PM
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8. Romney has a magic underwear problem... Not to mention the dog |
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on the roof of his car problem... I can go on but why.
Romney has too many problems, he has been vetted but he is ugly in any election year.
Obama is running against himself he will win or loose this election on his own.
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Fri Nov-04-11 05:03 PM
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12. Romney's magic underwear problem is probably no more insurmountable than JFK's pope problem |
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the conventional wisdom upon a time was that a Catholic couldn't get elected either, after all.
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Fri Nov-04-11 05:00 PM
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11. They hate Obama more than they are worried about magic underwear... |
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At least that is what I am seeing...
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Fri Nov-04-11 05:09 PM
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13. We won't have to worry about him with Cain and Perry competing with him. He is a Mormon. |
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Fundamentalists and right-wingers (teabaggers, Yankee-haters, anti-government types and the rest) will not vote for him.
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:05 PM
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20. Yankees won't vote for him. |
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None of my republican friends want him. He won't win Massachusetts. Evah.
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Sat Nov-05-11 03:39 AM
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You wrote it so I don't have to!
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Fri Nov-04-11 05:11 PM
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14. We have so much ammo against him. Just one spot showing |
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Edited on Fri Nov-04-11 05:12 PM by gateley
how he sent those jobs overseas, made so much money doing so, and the new multi-million pad he's building would turn a LOT of people off. Even though Obama has pissed off a lot of people, he never intentionally set out to make a company profitable at the expense of American men and women. That alone, if I were truly independent, would be enough to make me vote for Obama.
ETA: But you're right, and I realize I don't think/speak for the masses -- I think Romney as the VP candidate would be the most difficult for us to overcome.
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:17 PM
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29. Finally a person in the know. |
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I recognize the handle of one key participant in the OP as a rabid anti Obama member of DU. Says lots to me. The simple fact is that once the public know Romney, that public will throw up in it's mouth and either sit home or vote for President Obama.
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Fri Nov-04-11 05:41 PM
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16. People have very short memories. It was romney who believed corporations are people, and agreed |
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with the supreme court on that
romney now believes we should stay in Iraq and Afghanistan, along with the other republican nominees except for ron paul
Let them run on more trillion dollar wars, and I am pretty sure the American populous will not be enthusiastic about that
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Fri Nov-04-11 05:53 PM
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19. Romney is scary, and could sadly be our next president. |
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The fact that he (along with Hillary Clinton & Newt Gingrich) was one of the architects of the individual health care mandate, which is why it was first implimented in Massachusetts, means it will be difficult to paint him as very far to the right of Obama.
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:01 PM
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26. Make sure you cover mouth.... |
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:09 PM
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22. I was worried about Romney years ago but pretended I wasn't. Having seen him in several |
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debates and how he doesn't "pop" I am much less worried.
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:33 PM
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23. Romney got rich by killing jobs and firing workers. Not many people know that yet. |
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:27 PM
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When Patrick took over as Governor after Romney, one of the first problems that Governor Patrick had to correct was the poisoning of the environment from leaking tanks at gas stations. It turns out that Romney had taken money that state residents paid in gasoline taxes that was paid to replace leaking tanks and diverted that money, wasting most of it. Romney raised fees and hidden taxes to the point where Massachusetts had risen on the list of high tax states. Governor Patrick had Massachusetts back dow to the state with the 19th lowest tax rate when Gov. Patrick ran for re-election, all the while pushing the state to number one in the nation for kindergarten to grade 12 student achievement.
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:43 PM
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Edited on Fri Nov-04-11 06:45 PM by Politicalboi
Should make it a point about Mittens being a Mormon. And the "dangers' of having a Mormon in office. They killed gay marriage in Ca, we should only give back what they reap. HATE! Don't get me wrong, I hate all religions.
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:11 PM
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27. The book on Romney is not out. Watch and learn. |
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I am always amazed by assumptions being made based upon ignorance. There is a lot of dry ammo that will be launched against Romney, the man has leaded steel boots on, his republican party and people like you have no idea of how brutally heavy Romney's boots are. Romney will sink.
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:38 PM
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31. His corporate raiding and serial firing escapades ought to be enough. |
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Oh, and then there's the fact that he's afraid to take strong anti-worker-issue stands like a good Repuke does. The 1% handlers don't like that much.
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Fri Nov-04-11 08:34 PM
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32. What we would be the major differences between them be? |
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Note, I'm looking at policy, so I'm not interested in the Supreme Court thingy as an answer.
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Sat Nov-05-11 03:00 AM
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It would be his approach. Of course if her tacks way to the right and he brings in a whole lot more of the Right Wingers to congress, that could be a total disaster...
But if he should get in with a democratic congress, things could get interesting in a way that could wipe out the far right for a good long time...
I think a lot of the swing people, those who don't live and breath politics might look toward Romney because they seem to view president Obama as being ineffective. They don't like congress the way it is bow, look at the numbers. So they may be in the mood of splitting their ticket with Romney at the top and a democrat for congress.
I don't think they will go the other way.
But then again this post wasn't really about what I think but more on how the people who, as I stated before, do not live and breath politics.
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Sat Nov-05-11 06:18 AM
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37. Can either be moved by movement politics such as OWS? |
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We know Obama can moved by the right wing but can either be moved by people outside political handlers and consultants?
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Sat Nov-05-11 03:05 AM
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34. The repugs would be total idiots if they don't give the nomination to Romney |
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and even they are not that stupid.
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Sat Nov-05-11 03:47 AM
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36. These are the best kind of threads, a lot of exchanging, no fawning, no real snark... |
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Just a pure and simple discussion that gets a lot of different people in one place...
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