"We have Pakistan support" claim Taliban commanders, BBC documentary reveals evidence

[Vehl]

In May this year, US Special Forces shot and killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan. Publicly Pakistan is one of America's closest allies - yet every step of the operation was kept secret from it.

Filmed largely in Pakistan and Afghanistan, this two-part documentary series explores how a supposed ally stands accused by top CIA officers and Western diplomats of causing the deaths of thousands of coalition soldiers in Afghanistan. It is a charge denied by Pakistan's military establishment, but the documentary makers meet serving Taliban commanders who describe the support they get from Pakistan in terms of weapons, training and a place to hide.

This first episode investigates signs of duplicity that emerged after 9/11 and disturbing intelligence reports after Britain's forces entered Helmand in 2006.

"We have Pakistan support" claim Taliban commanders: BBC documentary reveals new evidence of Pakistan double cross
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2011/10_october/26/pakistan.shtml


The Documentary on Youtube

Secret Pakistan : Double Cross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_YFbnpyiceY

Check 5.25 for a segment about the Kunduz Airlift (Also known as "The Airlift of Evil")in which an Air corridor operated by the Pakistani military saw to the safe extraction (from the City of Kunduz in Afghanistan, surrounded by the Allied forces, to Airbases in Pakistan) thousands of top Al-Qaida and Taliban members to Pakistan.

Bruce Riedel, a former CIA officer, who headed a secret review of Pakistan's role for President Obama, describes briefing the President: "I spoke pretty much non-stop for about 45 minutes, and then we spent another hour, hour and a half, talking about it...

"I told the President Pakistan was double-dealing us and that the Pakistanis had been double-dealing the United States and its allies for years and years, and they were probably going to continue to do so."

Since then relations between Pakistan and the US have in secret verged on hostility – explaining why Pakistan was not informed of the US raid that killed Bin Laden – even though publicly Pakistan is meant to be a key ally.

While its a known fact nowadays, this documentary removes any doubt(if one even had any nowadays)about Pakistani complicity in protecting the Taliban and the Al-Qaeda from day one. And yes..this was years before America started its drone attacks in Pakistan.


As a British MP says

According to the former British Ambassador to Afghanistan Sherard Cowper Coles: "Somehow because the Pakistani dimension was too difficult, too enormous, we just sort of shut it out and pretended that by pushing the insurgents around Helmand or out of bits of Helmand, that was somehow solving the problem."

If only America and the allied nations had acted on the overwhelming evidence of Pakistani support of the Taliban+ Al-qauida, they would not have lost the lives of thousands of soldiers...nor would the entire Afghanistan campaign be in the precarious position it is in now.

Kudos for Obama for not letting Pakistan know about the impending raid on Osama's safe-house...cos Osama would have been tipped off.



Apparently the relationship between America and Pakistan have hit an all time low (despite public statements to the contrary) that Pakistan now transports its nukes, from place to place in ordinary vans, through heavy city traffic to keep America guessing about the locations of its nukes!!

Pakistan Transports Its Nukes in Everyday Vans

Nuclear bombs capable of pulverizing entire cities should probably be kept in a safe place. According to The Atlantic's new cover story, in Pakistan, they're transported in civilian-style vans through busy traffic. That's just one of the hair-raising revelations in a new report by The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg and National Journal's Marc Ambinder about the deteriorating relationship between the U.S. and Pakistan. In "The Ally from Hell," they reveal how Pakistani officials, in the aftermath of the U.S. raid on Osama bin Laden's compound, are transporting nuclear weapons in increasingly hazardous ways in order to keep the U.S. guessing about its deadly stockpile

Instead of moving nuclear material in armored, well-defended convoys, prefers to move material by subterfuge, in civilian-style vehicles without noticeable defenses, in the regular flow of traffic. according to both Pakistani and American sources, vans with a modest security profile are sometimes the preferred conveyance. and according to a senior U.S. intelligence official, the Pakistanis have begun using this low-security method to transfer not merely the “de-mated” component nuclear parts but “mated” nuclear weapons.


:wtf:

more here
http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-transports-nukes-everyday-vans-100000188.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/12/the-ally-from-hell/8730/

^^ It was this report that totally pissed me off. Not only are they transporting nukes in regular traffic without any security..but they are assembled ones as well (not disassembled parts on different vehicles). This is a ticking time bomb....only a matter of time before some Taliban or other "rouge element" steals one and uses it. The utter irresponsibility displayed by such an act is beyond belief!

They are putting the lives of Billions of people at risk! What will be their explanation if one of its stolen and used? "oops sorry"? or will they deny any and all knowledge?

:scared:

[Arctic Dave]

1. Golly, you're saying Pakistan is looking out for their interest and not the fatherlands?

Not really news.

[Vehl]

2. well, America could have spent the "aid" $ at home, rather than flushing it down the drain

I dunno how Supporting the Taliban and risking its nukes is really supporting the fatherland.

Seems to me that with almost biweekly bombs going off in Pakistan, killing dozens of civilians, while the Rich&Powerfull go out to shop in armored convoys (yep) does not translate into concern for the well being of their country. The only people who benefit from such actions are the ones in power(and by default the ones who have all the money) and the Taliban..and definitely not the nation of Pakistan.

At lest the US could have saved Billions of Taxpayer $ (about 25 Billion over the past 10 years in direct monetary aid) and the lives of thousands if they had been willing to accept the inconvenient truth. Considering the drastic cuts the Essential services in America are facing for the want of a few hundred millions(schools/colleges) Imho that money would have been much better spent at home. It sucks to give money to a person only to get screwed over.