Beware of Police Infiltrators: At least 2 of the "Black dressed masked protesters" were COPS

[kpete]

I can't believe this video isn't front and center in any discussion of agents provocateurs in Oakland, better known as the Black Bloc. For those of you without video capability, this shows two men who were dressed in black, participating in the protest, and then (presumably the next day) these same two men dressed as Oakland PD working the scene.

Now, granted, cops are part of the 99% and they have every right to participate in the OWS movement. And there's no evidence they were contributing to the violence and the mayhem. But as they say these days, something here is "hinky."

VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VrvMzqopHH0

It reminds me of something that happened in Jr. High. There was a time when kids were pulling the fire alarm nearly every week. It was getting old, and it had to be put to an end. The solution was to dust all of the fire alarm pull handles with an invisible black light powder. After the next false alarm all the usual suspects were paraded past a black light and it quickly put an end to the fake fire alarms.

Now this may not be a perfect solution, but one way we could confront this problem is to have our own spotters in the crowd, armed with squirt guns that spray an invisible black light ink on people seen committing acts of violence. Then set up black lights away from the protest, in places where people would have to pass through in order to get back home. Then these provacateurs can be confronted and identified away from the chaos and press of the crowd.

MORE:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/06/1033657/-At-least-2-of-the-Black-dressed-masked-protesters-were-COPS-?via=siderec

[Fumesucker]

1. K&R

[Firebrand Gary]

2. WHAT?

Wow...I cannot believe this is not the top of every news story in the country. Hopefully Maddow, Olbermann and Cooper will pick it up by Monday.

[NYC_SKP]

3. Working the crowd in plain clothes?

I wish there was something more incriminating in the videos and I suspect that the criminal acts were part of the 1% or the police or both, but in very general terms I don't see a problem if a police force decides to send in some personnel in plain clothes to protect the participants and others from whatever might happen.

At the same time, I know from experience in Oakland, many years ago, that some police officers (there and elsewhere) are thugs, practically indistinguishable from gang members.

I hope some evidence arises to connect the illegal acts to the perpetrators and if it's the police then it's even more important that it be exposed.

:patriot:

[pintobean]

5. Exellent post

Level-headed reasoning.

[lonestarnot]

9. Yes, and I hope the thuggery bastards know what happens when they go to the pen.

:evilgrin:

[Fire Walk With Me]

4. Had Keith shown this yet? Everyone needs to know about it.

[Douglas Carpenter]

6. knr

[Cid_B]

7. Can't see that going wrong...

I know I would be thrilled to be sprayed with an unknown chemical and so would a potential police officer. Oh look, its from a "gun" as well...

Great plan... :eyes:

[The Doctor.]

25. Use pepper spray instead.

It'll stop them at lest.

What would plainclothes cop do about it? Press charges?

[Ship of Fools]

8. If this proves absolutely true, then ... quelle surprise.

[coalition_unwilling]

10. The 1% has to use violence and these types of tactics. Because

we are the overwhelming majority (tip of the hat to Michael Moore). The 1% has got nothing else except violence, hooliganism and name-calling (see Fox News).

[Huey P. Long]

11. recommended

[AzDar]

12. K & R

:kick:

[pintobean]

13. If unmask = violence/assualt/battery

Wouldn't spraying people with chemicals be the same thing?

My question isn't directed at the OP. That view has been posted in another thread, by others.

[izquierdista]

14. Calling all paintball enthusiasts

Finally a use for your weekend practices.

[redgiant]

15. Would be more damning...

...if there was evidence that the cops in plain clothes did something illegal or attempted to incite illegal actions.

It doesn't surprise me that plain clothes officers would be inserted into OWS or similar situations. Nor is it inappropriate in and of itself. If they tried to incite illegal activity, that's another story.


On another note, it is an exceedingly BAD idea to point anything that looks remotely like a gun at someone else, be it a squirt gun or paintball gun. Don't do it.

[newspeak]

18. if you want to neutralize a movement

violence is the method. When the majority of the public sympathizes with the protesters, one must sway that sympathy and inciting violence is one way. Of course, the corporate media will be on top of any story showing the protest in a negative light. They can go from there zombie like repetition on almost every network-"what is their message?" "they have no leader." To, these hooligans are destroying property, people want them gone.

If the black bloc are police infiltrators or fake protesters having fun destroying property, the movement must find a way to deal with it. Even if they are not police infiltrators, I'd be yelling that they are-just because if they are doing damage, they are doing a favor for the authorities. By their very actions, giving the authorities another excuse to abuse the protesters and the movement being seen in a negative light.

[formercia]

24. Then you have the M$M who are there to frame the image

in a way that makes OWS look bad. The camera can make the demonstration to look like there was nothing but Black Bloc destroying property. How does the M$M know to show up at a given location and time to catch the violence? Simple; they are told in advance.
Not only look for provocateurs but keep an eye on the media if they happen to show up at a suspiciously opportune moment.

[MountainLaurel]

16. Surprise, surprise, surprise

Or not.

[eShirl]

17. What happens when the black light liquid squirter happens to be an infiltrator?

[arikara]

19. They have been caught in other demonstrations

and this is how one handled it... very successfully and without violence I might add.

Please watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow&feature=BFa&list=PL0674E0DD448B8FA9&lf=mh_lolz&index=2

[me b zola]

23. Thank you for sharing that link

This should be sent to Keith along with the link in the OP

[Fire Walk With Me]

20. Kick

[nilram]

21. ditto. and Recommended.

[sarcasmo]

22. Back to the top.

[Mimosa]

26. Provocateurs may not be 'police'

A few of us remember the anti-Vietnam war protests.

Powerful corporate and financial interests are threatened by American citizens forming a movement to protest and change the cruelly unjust and exploitive system which has been put over us.

I think high up corporate, financial and government have come together to try to shut down the movement. They have a lot to lose if enough people's eyes are opened, if enough people realize we can say NO to them. If we remain peaceful in our tactics, refuse to be divided, we can change this nation's policies.