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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 10:45 AM
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Wow is the media liberal!
Morning talk shows

NBC Haley Barbour
ABC John Boehner
CBS Ken "Yes, I stole the 2004 election in Ohio" Blackwell & Liz "Sure I got 100s of thousands of dollars to help rebuild Iraq and didn't so shit" Cheney



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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 10:47 AM
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1. If democrats can't get their mug on a television show, it shows one of two thing:
1) they are inept.
2) they are happy with it being that way.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 10:50 AM
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2. Wrong
It shows the right wing's control of the media.

In 2004 in Ohio the Kerry Campaign had the man John Kerry pulled out of the river in Vietnam,
while under fire, as he was wounded, and that won Kerry a Bronze star .... local stations would
not put him on but ran "Swift Boats for Truth" ads and shows.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 10:53 AM
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3. Democrats had both houses of Congress and the Presidency...
The could have passed the Fairness doctrine again..

But rather it's had a stake driven through its heart.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 10:56 AM
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4. I don't know if the terms of the old Fairness Doctrine would help much
in today's media world. It only covered broadcast media, not able, for one thing. The situation becomes more complicated when cable gets involved because, while the airwaves are suposedly held in public trust, the cable networks are not.p
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:00 AM
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6. The audience for cable "news" is minuscule..
It's talk radio that's murdering discourse in this country far more than cable news programs.

And talk radio is definitely on the public airwaves.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 10:57 AM
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5. Excellent point!!! n/t
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:14 AM
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8. have you heard one democratic leader make a peep about this?
I surely haven't. Although I see atleast one post a week on DU about it.

It's obviously something that occurs all the time.

Republicans moan and groan all the time. Why won't the democrats?

Show me one Democratic leader that has complained about this, and I'll concede.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:17 AM
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10. here is one
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:21 AM
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11. Totally not what I meant.
Show me one bitching and moaning that they didn't get a seat on MTP or any other Sunday show.

And that article was from 2007.

Yes bring back the Fairness doctrine, but doesn't mean the Democrats should use it as an excuse to let these shows get away with not having them on.

If you truly believe these shows won't allow Democrats on, that is one huge media story.

I've never once heard a Democrat say that is the case. However their mugs are hardly on tv, makes me wonder why.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:24 AM
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13. Here is another
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/pelosi-support-return-of-fairness-doctrine/

The media is not going to put on people who are critical of how they "run things."
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:39 AM
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15. from 2008. Has media matters reported that democrats aren't allowed on MTP
or Sunday shows?

Would be a huge scoop if it were true. If it's true, why hasn't any Democrat made the allegation.

yes by all means bring back the fairness doctrine, but atleast god dangit make an argument that you aren't allowed on.

We are talking about sunday shows here, not right wing radio, which is where most of the complaints about this come from, and where bringing back the fairness doctrine would help. But only if Democrats wanted to be on the show.

If they aren't allowed on on Sunday shows, why aren't they saying something about it.

If what you are saying is not true, why the hell aren't they on the shows.

You cannot have this every which way to sunday.

Democrats could ask and would be on the shows if they wanted to be. And if they were denied, that would be one hell of a major news story.

the ball is in your court to prove that Democrats have been forbidden from appearing on Sunday news shows. And to explain that if it is true, why they haven't said a danged thing about it specifically.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:53 AM
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17. U.R. missing my point
I never said or tried to say the democrats are not allowed on those shows but from
my prospective the shows are heavily waited to help get the right wing talking points
out.

I am from Ohio and to this day to see Ken Blackwell given a platform to speak on a
national level is galling. In 2004 he sent out voter registration cards on a certain
thickness of paper but as hundreds of thousands of new voters who were anti bush
started to pour in he ruled that the thickness of the paper of the registrations was
not right so those registrations had to be cast out ...... they were later allowed but
the damage was done. Now CBS news and Bob Schiefer know about this but still put
him on. Liz Cheney and her family made millions if not billions in the turning of Iraq
into a hell hole and Liz's personal actions caused suffering for millions of Iraqis that
are still suffering today but somehow she too is allowed to spout lies and hate unchecked
on our "liberal media."

i mean after Obama got bin Laden the press put on all these former bush people who
had failed to get him to talk about the killing of bin Laden. :puke:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:57 AM
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18. I am saying that if Democrats really wanted to be on these shows, they would be.
And there are only two reasons they are not, and those two reasons do not include they aren't allowed on.

Come on. If they haven't asked to be on, shame on them. If they have asked and they are not put on, shame doubly on them for not making it known.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 03:52 PM
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19. exactly when does a guest dictate whether or not they can be on
somebody's show? When the host MUST have them on?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 05:42 PM
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23. They can ask to be on. And if denied, make a stink.
How do you know they weren't asked? I have never heard a politician complain about republicans only on sunday morning shows, have you?

They don't give a shit. ask yourself why...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 03:58 PM
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20. +100
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:03 AM
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7. The two are not mutually exclusive by any means . Maybe option #3:
Both of the above?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:17 AM
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9. condi is on This Week, justifying our initial presence in Iraq, along
with denigrating what the current admin is doing

she just said we're in a very weak position in the Afghan, so we shouldn't be talking to taliban at this point

great job you did there, NOT looking for bin Laden, remember, among other things?

you can see so obviously when she's lying, btw....little falsetto changes to her voice, hurryup in delivery

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:21 AM
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12. It is the way they ALL push certain talking points
Edited on Sun Nov-06-11 11:26 AM by Botany
Obama's stimulus failed

Everybody though Iraq had WMDs

George W Bush kept us safe

Over regulation costs us jobs

The media is liberal

I just saw Condi a few days ago talking about how the W admin. kept Qaddafi in check (I had to turn it off)




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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:40 AM
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16. I watched a few moments of her Letterman appearance
I can't stand the sight/thought of her, or anyone else in that criminal junta

I flipped around during her TW clip, then landed in deeper filth: Liz cheney on Schieffer, droppin her n's all over the place, real folksy n all, blaming the libmedia for concentrating on Cain's bimbo eruptions and Perry's flipout speech

I'd forgotten why I never watch this crap anymore

time for Bert Wolf in Ireland
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 05:19 PM
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22. Even Jon Stewart had her on last week - hawking her book.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 11:33 AM
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14. Notice that RWers don't call it "liberal media" as much as they used to.
Even they know that dog don't hunt anymore. Now it's the "lamestream media" or the "drive by media" or some such thing.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 04:11 PM
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21. Try and find something like this about Repugs
Edited on Sun Nov-06-11 04:12 PM by RegieRocker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6YdNmK77k

Yes the media is liberal. ROFLMAO what a crock of crap.


Edit: Now this puts a different spin on the Zombie crap the CDC put out now doesn't it?
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