Question about Anonymous and the logo

[Sarah Ibarruri]

Can people put the Anonymous logo on their e-mail? I mean, think of it. What if MILLIONS had the Anonymous logo on their e-mail, even if all they did was sit at home and read blogs and things? It's one more way to grow this leaderless movement.

Opinions, anyone?

[dipsydoodle]

1. Which logo?

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[Sarah Ibarruri]

2. The suit with the question mark for a head? nt

[dipsydoodle]

4. Reminds me of

Mr Smith which may be its origin anyway. I wondered if you meant the Warner Bros copyright Fawkes mask.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

5. No, but I wish that were available! nt

[Kaleko]

7. This one:

[karnac]

8. looks like an moneyed anonymous republican donor....

anonymity swings both ways...

Just sayin.... ;-)

[Skip_In_Boulder]

3. I am pretty sure it is in the public domain. n/t

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. More than likely. I'm thinking of using it as an e-mail signature. nt

[Kaleko]

9. Everything Anonymous puts out is meant to be spread

like seeds to grow the 99% movement.

These "guys" have attracted some help from high-powered sources in various industries by now. About this I no longer have any doubt. Research would indicate that we have some billionaires with a vision on our side.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

10. Wonderful! I'm going to use it as an e-mail signature then.

I just have to figure out how to do it. I've never used a graphic as a signature on gmail.

[TBF]

11. Anything substantive to back that up? nt

[Kaleko]

13. Yes,

but I respect these people's wish to remain anonymous for now. Just as I would hope to have my anonymity respected while working on this massive shift in the ways that I can.

[TBF]

14. Fair enough -

most of the Silicon Valley folks I've read about are avowed libertarians, but I don't doubt there could be one or two that are more benevolent.

[Better Believe It]

12. "Leaderless" movements have never lasted for very long. Leaders emerge in every mass movement that

has a clear agenda and is successful.

And authentic leaders will and in fact are emerging right now in the OWS movement.

All mass movements in world and American history have developed both organizations and individuals who demonstrate a capacity to build effective movements for change and that's also true regarding our opponents on the right.

This just happens naturally and isn't at all bad if dedicated organizations with a competent and dedicated leadership emerge.

The problem we have is a lack of such leadership so far.

[Kaleko]

15. The apparent lack of leadership so far is not a problem but a strength of this movement.

A stroke of genius, actually.

To understand more of the overall vision that guides Anonymous' actions, please watch the video I posted upthread.

It explains that we have only recently entered phase one of "the Plan", which has three phases.

Anonymous: This is what we are capable of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP9q61Fjlqo&feature=source_video

[Sarah Ibarruri]

17. It's the only reason the movement is still alive, and growing by leaps and bounds!

I'm overjoyed.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

16. I've watched movements in the past, and the minute there are leaders, these leaders are attacked

That brings the downfall of the movement.

The fact that they have no one to attack, has left the powers-that-be with their hands tied. They don't know whom to go after. They don't know whom to attack. They're afraid.

Further, this movement seems to be growing, not only in the numbers of people going outside and protesting, but in e-mail. It has spread widely and people who previously were unaware of exactly how corporations and banks created this worldwide crisis, are now becoming aware.

What's more, Anonymous is now doing their own thing. While unaffiliated, since no one in this movement is affiliated with anything, they are adding to the growing discourse. Witness the fleeing from giant banks going on right now. No leader, and yet this movement is having a tremendous effect. Institutions that previously were able to quash movements like this, are now helpless to do so.

I think the strength of this movement is its having no leaders, the message spreading like wildfire (which it is doing), and the YOUNG being on board like never before.

If OWS turned into a movement like all others before, with leaders, it would go the way of all other movements and cease to be effective.

I applaud the leaderless movement. It's the first movement that has been able to carry a message so far and wide, and it's still growing. None other has ever been able to do this.

[Better Believe It]

19. Dr. King was attacked, John L. Lewis was attacked. and the movements they led were destroyed?

The civil rights movement and labor movement were destroyed because of they were led by people like Dr. King and John L. Lewis???!!!

And how about the many leaders who emerged over the past century in the women's rights movement?

Was the women's rights movement also destroyed because they had leaders?

And how about leaders in the gay rights and environmental movements in the past few decades? Did Harvey Milk and other leaders also destroy those movements?

That's nonsense!

If OWS doesn't gradually develop into the national movement with a clear political/economic strategy and a highly capable and competent leadership that can mobilize millions to challenge the status quo it will fade away and be replaced with something much bigger and better.

It's way to early to predict where OWS is headed.

The OWS movement is just the first step, but a very important step, toward building a massive movement that can challenge the economic/political power of Wall Street and big business.

You wrote: " It's the first movement that has been able to carry a message so far and wide, and it's still growing. None other has ever been able to do this."

Again, you never heard of mass populist movements in American history that have also spread their message far and wide, farther and wider than OWS, and won their demands?

I think that comment indicates you have not seriously studied mass radical movements in American history to learn and understand what they did right and where they might have gone wrong in some cases.

When errors and setbacks occurred in those movements it wasn't because they had leaders. The problem was usually misleadership!

Every movement has leadership development as will OWS. It's happening right now. If none develops, a highly unlikely scenario, OWS will fade away and be replaced by something more effective.

[Zorra]

18. Yeah, that's what the PTB keps telling us too.

You're in some real bad company there, amigo.

[Better Believe It]

20. Leadership will develop out of this movement. It's happening right now.

That's happened in every effective progressive mass movement in American history without exception.

You can't force it and you can't stop it.

It's just a natural political development.

Where is the OWS movement and its local unaffiliated groups headed?

It's too early to say.

Let's see where we are at six months from now. And how "leaderless" OWS really is or becomes.