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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:52 AM
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popcorn, get your popcorn here: We’ve officially entered the Gloria Allred phase of Cain Scandal
The media circus surrounding Herman Cain just got its third ring.

The celebrity gossip website Radar reports that Gloria Allred — yes, that one — will introduce America to a woman who says Cain harassed her in the past.



The woman, who will be the first to go public on Monday, sought Cain’s help with an employment issue and was allegedly sexually harassed by him. Allred and her client will discuss, in detail, what she alleges occurred with Cain.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/new-woman-alleging-sexually-harassment-herman-cain-will-go-public-monday


Allred’s office did not immediately respond to a request for confirmation on the Radar story

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/report-gloria-allred-to-kick-off-next-chapter-of-cain-saga.php
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:53 AM
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1. kick, kick, kickety kick
:rofl:

:kick:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:54 AM
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2. Yum!
:popcorn:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:54 AM
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3. Go, Gloria!!
K&R
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:54 AM
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4. I need popcorn !
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:55 AM
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6. Here ya go:
:popcorn:

And one for me: :popcorn:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:00 AM
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10. Thanks...
Wow...you can't make this stuff up!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:55 AM
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5. sexual harassment and repeated sexual harassment is about character. allred really
is not the issue.

i dont think we need to be dismissive with the subject
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:57 AM
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9. I agree but her being involved is going to make it seem less serious, not more. It is too bad
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 09:58 AM by Pirate Smile
actually that she is managing to get involved with this.

It is going to help Cain dismiss it as a joke.

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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:52 PM
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33. Ridiculous bullshit
And AFAIC, indicative of a sexist attitude all around, speaking dismissively of Allred and her involvement.

Look, men in general and TPTB will use ANY excuse to treat this issue dismissively, just as you did. Don't help them, unless of course you really are sexist yourself.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:55 AM
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7. I hate to say this because it demeans the real issue of sexual harassment.
But the sideshow is just too godawful.

Please, god, make it stop...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:56 AM
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:02 AM
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11. Remember, Allred is the one who brought forth women harassed by $chwarzenegger
in CA before his election as Governor. The right wing didn't believe their action hero would really grope all those women (or didn't care, a seeming suspension of their family values mantra). Then it turned out he'd been doing to his maid what he was doing to Californians overall.

Listen to Gloria - she does not put her career on the line for liars.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:03 AM
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12. I don't know what's sadder: (a) that the accuser has been drugged into this or
(b) that just because Allred is the representative, then somehow it's the victim's fault and therefore the victim has no credibility.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:05 AM
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13. yup. but wtf.... much more fun to make lite of sexual harassment and make perimeters of behavior
go away

it is just so confusing for some.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:12 AM
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19. Wouldn't say she was drug into this as this woman never made a formal complaint -
- no one would have known about her had she not now come forth. And that's what's hurting her credibility - that she waited to come forth until the media was involved.

IMO, those that filed formal complaints some years ago hold all the credibility in this situation. There are too many people in the world - male and female - looking for that 15 minutes of media fame for me to entirely trust someone who only makes allegations AFTER the situation is in the media spotlight. Her association with Gloria Allred certainly doesn't help, either.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:47 AM
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21. because, as a woman, it is a long stretch to understand why a woman would simply quit and find
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 11:52 AM by seabeyond
another job instead of trying to do something about the boss, with money, sexually harassing her. or being smeared cause she dared to speak out. oh wait... kinda like now, not even hearing what she has to say before saying she lack credibility.

already the women that did complain, and did get a settlement have been publically roasted for taking money and not pressing charges and going to court, so they must be lying. and other repug politicians comparing them to chicken, breast thighs and legs.... and women not being able to take a joke. and why arent the women speaking out, but hiding. no mention about a settlement that forces them to stay quiet as they get bashed.

i guess the moral to this story is... women, keep your god damn mouth shut and take it, let the man do what he wants cause regardless of action, you are dissed.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:08 PM
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28. The moral of the story -
- is to speak out about sexual harassment when it occurs and not wait until it hits the front page. Two made formal complaints which is how it should have been handled.

She may be telling the 100% truth. My point is that her credibility suffers since she didn't come forth at the time the incident occurred.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:16 PM
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29. again... then there is reality. go back to the thread asking about experience with harassment and
assault. and then ask the number of women that told their story if they made a complaint.

the point being, one of the huge consideration in doing "how it should have been handled" per you, is the repercussion the female factors in. this thread alone shows the dismissive mentality we have toward women harassed. look, we even have a funny little subthread to sexualized a woman and some innuendos to dismiss a thread on harassment.

your point may be what women need to do, but ignoring a lot of the reality of this doesn't help your point.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:56 PM
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34. You're not in a position to determine FOR OTHERS what they
should have done.

And your credibility-detector has gotten out of whack. See if you can have that fixed somewhere.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:53 AM
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23. How do you know she never made a formal complaint?
Is the press conference already over, perhaps?

If you know more details please share them.

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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:01 PM
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27. That's the way I understood it from other reports -
- She's referred to as a "new" accuser. From a different article:

"Allred's client would be the first of Cain's accusers to speak publicly about the charges. Already, three former NRA employees have reported that they were harassed by Cain at the restaurant lobbying group; two of the women filed formal complaints and reached settlement agreements with the NRA."

It states that two of the women filed formal complaints. I read that as not this particular woman, especially since she's referred to as "new".

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57319638-503544/new-herman-cain-accuser-to-come-forward-with-gloria-allred/
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:36 AM
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14. What happened to the other lawyer who was going to get the gag order lifted...
How did Allred get her hooks in this?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:40 AM
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15. This isn't one of the women who filed a sexual harassment
charge.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:54 AM
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16. LOL! What took her so long?
:popcorn:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:58 AM
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17. ...."the Gloria Allred phase...."
Hahaha. Too perfect.

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:02 AM
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18. Gloria Allred phase = loud, won't go away publicity
Cain deserves that.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:28 AM
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20. Hey, I was about to create a poll on when the Gloria would come out of the woodwork...
...and before I could get it done, there she was! :rofl:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:53 AM
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22. The oxycontin must be flowing like wine today in the Limbaugh household
Something tells me that Gloria Allred gets under his flab like no other.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:55 AM
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24. this is the FOURTH woman....WaPo
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 11:57 AM by spanone
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lawyer-4th-cain-accuser-will-speak-publicly-monday/2011/11/07/gIQA6KwPvM_story.html


Celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred will appear before reporters this afternoon in New York City with a woman who will allege that GOP presidential contender Herman Cain sexually harassed her, Allred’s office said Monday.

The woman is not one of the three women previously reported to have accused Cain of sexual harassment, Allred’s office said.

Allred’s client will allege that Cain harassed her when she sought his help seeking a job while he was president of the National Restaurant Association, the law office said in an e-mail. She will be the first person to give her name and provide details in a scandal that has consumed Cain’s presidential campaign for more than a week.

The news conference is sure to keep the scandal alive for another day; Cain has been embattled for more than a week over allegations that he sexually harassed multiple employees while working in the 1990s for the National Restaurant Association.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:57 AM
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26. A more informative / less sensationalist subject line
might have prevented some misunderstandings.

However, we can blame the unserious treatment on Gloria now. So it's ok!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:56 AM
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25. How does Gloria DO it? Damn. Cain is toast. n/t
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:41 PM
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30. I love Gloria....
kick him where it hurts, Gloria!
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:58 PM
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35. Yeah, after the treatment she's gotten in this thread, I'm a much bigger fan
than I used to be.

I know this: I'd for certain try to get her on my side if I had an issue of that type.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:56 AM
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36. Because she fights
so hard for women's rights, she is hated by the patriarchy and the willfully ignorant who want women to be exploited and oppressed.

Use your Ignore Button....I do.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:35 PM
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37. Exactly -- on both point. ;-) nt
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:11 AM
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38. Hoping Herman
goes back to delivering pizzas soon.

And Welcome to DU, Remember Me!!!
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:05 AM
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39. Thank you. nt
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:46 PM
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31. +1 (at least)!
:rofl:
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Rectangle Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:54 PM
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32. Ol' Herman Cain....circlin' the drain
Say it to yourself once.
:rofl: :)
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