Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Beware of cats

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:19 AM
Original message
Beware of cats
Common brain parasite 'can affect host's actions'

Boffins here in Blighty say that a brain parasite which is carried by up to 20 per cent of the population is capable of affecting its host's actions for its own benefit – but against the interests of the host.

The parasite in question, Toxoplasma gondii, has now been found to "directly affect" the production of dopamine, a key chemical messenger in the human brain. Dopamine levels are implicated in human illnesses such as attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, Parkinson's disease and schizophrenia.

Toxoplasma gondii's primary host organism is cats, but it can also live in other creatures including humans and rats. Humans are infected with it by eating unwashed vegetables with cat poo on them: it's estimated that between 10 and 20 per cent of Brits carry the protozoan parasite and perhaps 22 per cent of Americans. Normally the hidden brain invader appears to have little effect on a human host, though it can kill in certain cases – for instance in the case of someone whose immune system isn't working.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/07/brain_manipulating_parasite/

From the paper The Neurotropic Parasite Toxoplasma Gondii Increases Dopamine Metabolism

Several studies have suggested that T. gondii infection in humans can have serious neurological effects <10>. Associations have been identified between T. gondii seroprevalence and schizophrenia <11>–<13>. The schizophrenia-associated risk factors of T. gondii infection have been found to be greater than the risk factors associated with an individual's genes and with other environmental factors <13>, <14>. Schizophrenia affects approximately 1% of the adult population and in most cases is a lifelong disease with exacerbations. Although schizophrenia is a multifactorial disease, pharmacological and genetic evidence suggest that dysregulation of dopamine metabolism is involved in schizophrenia <15>, <16>.

Paper is free on PLoS ONE at http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0023866#aff1
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:27 AM
Response to Original message
1. It would seem to me that the obvious solution
is to *not* eat food with cat poo on it. Whenever possible, I avoid eating anything with poo from any animal on it; I'm just funny that way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Kitty walks in the litter box; kitty walks on the kitchen counter; ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. Already taken into account
Food that I eat doesn't make direct contact with the kitchen counter. I'm funny that way too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #4
13. That's the one place my cats are forbidden...kitchen counter...nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #4
24. Does kitty ever give you 'kisses?'
Because they all lick their assholes. Avoid toxo from cats is not as easy as you seem to think it is.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #2
19. I don't prepare food directly on my counter
because my cat is old and cranky and he has no manners.

I keep a stack of cutting boards underneath the cabinet and pull one out everytime I prepare food.

It's the simple things...:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #19
25. Yep--nobody with a cat can say for sure that the cat is never on the counter
or table. I never put food directly on the counter, either--always plates or cutting boards.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. in that case
stay out of OliveGarden...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #9
20. Not a prob
Besides the RW contributions on the part of Olive Garden's corporate overseers, I don't like faux-Italian food. As Henry Hill said, 'noodles & ketchup.' I can get the real deal - for a similar price - less than a mile from where I live.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:32 AM
Response to Original message
3. Damn! Ron Burgundy is so dead:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. Blech! Blech!
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 11:58 AM by valerief
:rofl:
:puke:
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Sorry.
:evilgrin:






.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. I guess I'm not German enough. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mac1949 Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:52 AM
Response to Original message
5. I love cats. We have four. But I wash all fruits and veg before
eating (not really because of the cats. More because of pesticides), as well as wiping down the counter and cutting boards before preparing food. Also, with patience cats can be trained to stay off certain surfaces. With a little basic hygiene, this seems rather a non-issue to me. :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
15. You didn't know my cat Bob
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:17 PM
Response to Original message
8. Yes, this is all true about Toxoplasma. But before people get all in a panic,
it is NOTHING NEW. This bug has been with us since we domesticated cats, or perhaps before. And normal, healthy humans have little if anything to fear from it.

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/toxoplasmosis/

Read all you want. Just remember to wash your hands before handling food, and if you are pregnant or immunosuppressed, avoid incompletely cooked meats, keep cats indoors, and don't feed THEM incompletely cooked meats either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. As an immunocompromised person, I can vouch that ads3ew - must feed cat now.
j/k :) I have 5 cats and have had cats for many years including when I was diagnosed as basically having advanced HIV disease (22 t-cells at the time).

Proper hygiene and food handling makes all the difference.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. I thought they also recommended that pregnant women
not clean cat litter boxes. This was a while ago now, though, so things may have changed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #12
26. Pregnant women CAN clean litter boxes. Need to clean DAILY so poop
doesn't become infectious, and wear mask/gloves.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #8
34. I'm immunocompromised ... I'm supposed to avoid kids, but not cats
Toxoplasmosis is waaaaay down on the list of things my doctors worry about my exposure to.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 12:29 PM
Response to Original message
11. Fearmongering. All sorts of creatures and things carry all sorts of germs, bacteria, and parasites.
Practice good hygiene and use common sense.

Plus, kitties are worth any risk. :loveya:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:07 PM
Response to Original message
16. Look, your cat licks its butt, then licks elsewhere. You pet your cat elsewhere, then
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 01:09 PM by snot
bite into that apple.

Your cat walks across your desk. You eat at your desk.

You sit on the couch near where you cat had been lying, and your hand touches that area. You dig into the popcorn.

Maybe the odds of such indirect transmission are small; but if you live with a cat, incidents like this happen almost constantly, for years.

What we need is a cure.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. I think the cure is to not haz a dumb and to brain on a regular basis.
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
17. Blatant pro-dog propaganda
typical M$M. :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #17
30. Beat me to it. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:46 PM
Response to Original message
21. Fat cats on Wallstreet are also affected?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cyrakitty Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:51 PM
Response to Original message
22. Toxoplasmosis
is mostly a concern for pregnant women (I studied vet tech med and this is what we were taught). And you mostly get it from cleaning the litter box and then not washing your hands. And quite frankly if you are dumb enough to do this it is probably best that you don't reproduce in the first place.

:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rusty fender Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #22
31. What does it do to the cats?
I have 5 cats and I be :scared: for them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cyrakitty Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. Don't worry too much
Toxoplasmosis is caused by a parasite but it rarely causes significant clinical disease in cats-or any species. Cats get the parasite when it ingests an infected prey (or other infected raw meat) then the parasite is released into the cat's digestive tract where it lays eggs. Cats are the only host that allows the parasite to lay eggs. Also, if you clean the litter box daily you will never experience a problem. The reason being that the eggs passed in a cat's feces are not immediately infectious to other animals. They must first go through a process called sporulation, which takes one to five days depending on environmental conditions.

Most cats infected with the parasite will not show any symptoms. Occasionally, however, clinical disease-toxoplasmosis-occurs. When disease does occur, it may develop when the cat's immune response is not adequate to stop the spread. The disease is more likely to occur in cats with suppressed immune systems, including young kittens and cats with feline leukemia virus (FELV) or feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV).

So all in all, if you have a healthy indoor only cat and you clean the box daily - this will never be an issue. Please do not let your cats outside where they are exposed to diseases or diseased prey.

Hope this helped put you at ease. Much love and kindness!!

O8)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:04 PM
Response to Original message
23. We get it, cats are Agents of Evil.
I have a higher risk of catching something from an unsanitary human than I do from one of my kitties.

Just watch how many humans leave a restroom without washing their hands.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. Brought to you by the
Dog Lobby. :evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #23
32. There have been studies about this.
And the results ain't pretty. x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
28. Ted Nugent discovered this disease in 1977 n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:22 PM
Response to Original message
29. 22% carry in US----that's how many admit to supporting the Tea Party!
just a coincidence I'm sure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #29
36. But they're not the same people.
All the cat people I know are lefties. The Lounge right here at DU is a virtual Temple of Bast.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:59 AM
Response to Original message
35. 'can affect host's actions' is the interesting part. Rats lose their fear of the smell of cat urine.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 01:11 AM by DirkGently
... thus making them easier prey for cats and continuing the parasitic cycle.

The fringe hypothesis is speculation as to whether "Crazy Cat Lady" syndrome is related somehow.

Might Toxo explain why some humans develop an unhealthful attraction to cats and apparently become immune to the smell of their urine? And might that explain the mystery of crazy cat ladies?

“That idea doesn’t seem completely crazy,” Sapolsky says. “But there’s no data supporting it.”

Not yet. But Jaroslav Flegr, an evolutionary biologist at Charles University in the Czech Republic, is looking into it. He has spent years studying Toxo’s impact on human behavior. (He found, for example, that people infected with Toxo have slower reflexes and are 2.5 times as likely to get into car accidents.) He won’t have results of his study for a while and refuses to speculate. But Joanne Webster says the connection isn’t much of a stretch: “In our evolutionary past, perhaps we were eaten by cats, too,” she says.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/magazine/09_10_catcoat.html

Live with a million cats. Lose your aversion to cat pee AND your coordination. Expire alone amongst the feline hordes. Become kitty snack.

(Insert maniacal kitteh laughter here)



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:53 AM
Response to Original message
37. Be afeered!!!



YO!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 02:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC