There is a problem with this photo from DENVER

[nadinbrzezinski]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2249771&mesg_id=2249771

Two days old.

Care to check the weather?

Yup...media is manipulating you,

For the record I did have curmudgeon go at it locally, as expected, until I brought Dubya defacing it. But it just dawned on me. T-shirt weather...really.

We call that AstroTurf.

[mrs_p]

1. I'm up here in Fort Collins

And was wearing a T-shirt on Saturday. The sun was out. This is Colorado - it can be 20F at night and back up into the 50s by noon.

Not that the media wouldn't lie...

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Yup, but here is a photo from same

Something ain't jibing here

[maddezmom]

4. there is a lady in that pic with short sleeves on as well

:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Yeah but most are wearing heavier.

That's the point. I could have given you a photo of guy with no shoes in the rain in sd. But the rest wore heavier clothes.

[maddezmom]

13. well a DU'er from that other thread was there and saw them on Sat

:)

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. I want more info

This has a complete feeling of... Plant and psychological operations.

[maddezmom]

16. go check the thread out for the Du'er....maybe he can give you some

[pintobean]

20. That image is hosted on MSNBC

Here's the url with the last 3 letters removed.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-111105-ows-denver-2-3.photoblog900.
Add jpg to it.

[Warpy]

3. Yeah, I wondered about that, too

It's cold as a titch's wit here in NM. I can't believe it would be warmer 400 miles north in Denver, not that much warmer.

I hope someone IDs that photo. My guess is that they're not in the US.

[Rabblevox]

5. I wondered about exactly that. Does NOT look like November in Denver...

Denver was getting snow on the supposed date of the pic.

Anti-Astroturf at your call, Nadine! ( and hope your cold/flu is better)

[Ptah]

7. According to Weather Underground, it was 60 in Denver on saturday

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KDEN/2011/11/7/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. I can't fully put my finger on it.

But something just don't jive.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

9. There is a BIGGER problem with that shot --

It's not a flag they are standing on. It is an object that is SIMILAR to an American flag, but it is not a flag. Look at the placment of the stars -- we have not had that placement since, what, what Alaska or Hawaii became States? Also, the stars are not pure white -- there is red and blue present in them.

How do we know this wasn't a beach blanket or other cloth item put down on the ground for sitting?? Are these people really "stamping on an Amrican flag" or are they instead dancing on a blanket they had been sitiing on prior?

On edit: Look at the people in the shot -- not the young man and the older wopamn in the forefront, the others. Knees bent, hands raised in a "raise the roof" sign, big smiles, happiness on faces -- looks more to me like folks enjoying some good music.


This image is being used to create an inflamitory myth, plain and simple.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Exactly. It is astro

I wonder where Breitbart and friends were. It also conveniently fits every cartoon image. Only thing missing...weed.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

11. Yup, I am shocked at how many people --

even here on DU are upset about a picture that is clearly NOT WHAT IT SEEMS. Jeez louise, folks open your eyes!

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. I am not. It still works.

[Mr Gerrity]

17. It's a flag

An old one, and decorated one, but it is a flag and this is clearly part of the protest, (not just some joyful dancing). Let's leave the conspiracy theories to the Freepers.




http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/G28n6Fu84N6VsxPDX83aaQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNTg7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/

[Common Sense Party]

19. Who's the ninja?

[Mr Gerrity]

24. That's Carl

He the kid in the neighborhood that just likes to play dress-up. He's got an awesome Green Lantern costume, but somehow the ninja seemed more appropriate for a protest.

[Common Sense Party]

28. I'd like to see video.

I'm betting Carl has some skills.

[Mr Gerrity]

32. No video available but I hear he has awesome

Nunchuck skills... bowhunting skills... computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills!

[Common Sense Party]

35. And he can draw ligers like nobody else. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. So you think things like contrielpro did not happen

And are just conspiracy?

Ok...

[Mr Gerrity]

31. You're right.

The Denver office of the FBI gets a flag from 1959, splatters it with paint and other symbols, and then hires a couple of dumb kids to dance on it. It's a brilliant plan in it's simplicity. Or a few overenthusiastic protesters go a little too far (Occam's razor). But I will yield to your expertise on yet another subject that only you have secret knowledge.

[Name removed]

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[mwrguy]

25. It's an older flag, and a nice stitched one, too.

From the close-up pictures it appears to be a cotton flag with 48 stars, stitched together instead of screen-printed.

It was probably somebody's grandparents flag that they found folded up in a garage or something.

[Common Sense Party]

15. There's no problem with the photo that I can see.

People having fun, standing and dancing on a flag.

Some are dressed warmly, some aren't.

Sometimes a banana is just a banana, Anna.

[Avalux]

18. What I notice about the photo.....

The flag on the ground (which doesn't look like an actual flag) has an anarchy sign spraypainted on the stars....

Independent of your post, I thought there was something off about the photo anyway; and was used by the media because of the 'flag'.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Bingo.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

23. well, the flag looks to be old (thought homemade initially)

as the star pattern is wrong...but that doesn't change the sentiment. why wouldn't some of the people at these rallies dance on the flag? there are people of all stripes and gripes there (gripes is not meant to be a pejorative...it just rhymed)...

sP

[snort]

26. Its a 6x8 pattern of stars. So it's an old flag.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

27. i agree...but i thought i said that...

who knows...i am exhausted...i could have said just about anything...

sP

[slackmaster]

22. The framing and composition are horrible

No artistry at all.

[lynne]

29. I don't see any problem or manipulation -

- the flag could be about anything. Could be old - could be a beach blanket - could be a homemade rug or something. Not an issue, IMO.

As far as the t-shirt - my son walks out of here daily in a t-shirt when its almost freezing. The young have a tendency to do that. Notice that everyone - including the guy in the t-shirt - has on long pants. I'm betting he had on a hoodie or something and got hot while dancing and moving about and just took it off.

I don't see any manipulation here. Just someone working up a sweat.

[Ohio Joe]

34. I live just a short distance from Occupy Denver

I wore a T-shirt out Saturday.