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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 04:56 PM
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Why I will vote for Obama (while I hold my nose)
It's simple, really. I didn't like Obama from the beginning, I don't like him now. I will vote for him anyway. Despite the fact that he is a centrist, wall-street pandering, war-mongering president.

He is still clearly the best of a bunch of bad options. His IQ probably equals the cumulative total of the repubs. He does not hate women, LGBTQ's, or immigrants. I think he would honestly like to see us become a "peacetime" country.

He won't accomplish jack. He will go down in history as one of our most ineffectual presidents ever.

And he's still the best choice. Sucks for us, but sometimes you just have to suck it up.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 04:58 PM
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1. This is David Axelrod, isn't it?
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 04:59 PM by Richardo
C'mon, you can tell us.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:00 PM
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3. LOL! I'm not sure if I should be flattered or insulted. But just lil' ol' me. /nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 04:59 PM
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2. That's a lovely backhanded compliment.
But in actuality, he's accomplished more in his first two years than most presidents get in any full term.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:04 PM
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8. If by "accomplishments" you mean starting 2 new wars, bailing out billionaires,, and gutting...
the economy, and increasing police surveillance then yep! He's a winner!

I despise the man. I despise almost every single thing that he has done. I still say he's the best of a bad lot, and the only realistic choice.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:51 PM
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24. I think you mean ending wars, and Obama didn't bail out anyone.
Frankly, you're attributing the entire Bush presidency to Obama. Imaginary wars, imaginary bailouts, imaginary economic devastation. The fact is that what Obama has actually done is exactly the opposite: ending the wars, insuring that the taxpayers turned a PROFIT on TARP, and pulling the economy back from the brink, along with passing Wall Street reform, healthcare reform, and some 150 other promises kept.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/

If you want to despise those facts, it says more about you than it does about Obama.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:09 PM
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27. So what have facts
got to do with anything??? :shrug:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:00 PM
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4. I don't think he's ineffectual. I think his 2nd Term will be his finest hour.
I was a HRC supporter last time around in the primary, but my team didn't prevail. I'll be voting for BHO again this time as well.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:01 PM
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5. i will vote for him without holding my nose.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:02 PM
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6. Gee... thanks for sharing that. n/t
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:03 PM
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7. Will you also be poking a finger in your eye ....
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 05:05 PM by Better Believe It

and hold your nose with your other hand while standing up on one leg?

Now that I would be impressed with!

:)
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:06 PM
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9. Even if he gets elected again
with a republican house and maybe even a republican takeover of the senate, he won't get anything done unless he goes even more right wing than he has already tried. He already blew what was a golden opportunity in his first term.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:06 PM
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10. He's accomplished things. Whether you think all of them..
are positive things, though, is subjective. He never really went to bat for the middle class and poor. I think the bank settlement proves that. Also who he surrounded himself with does. That said, a Romney or Cain administration wouldn't even give a small bone to the 99%. So I'll vote for President Obama and hope for a more progressive 2nd term.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:08 PM
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11. Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far)
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:14 PM
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14. Obama's acheivements (thus far)
EXPANDED the Patriot Act

EXPANDED the wars

BAILED OUT the billionaires

FUCKED the working poor and middle-class

I'll argue each and every point, if you choose to, but be warned, I've got the facts on my side.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:31 PM
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20. Well, if you're gonna be picky about it. n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:53 PM
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25. Actually no, those aren't facts on your side. Those are piles of bullshit.
You can't prove he started two new wars, because he didn't.

You can't prove he bailed out the banks, because he didn't.

You can't prove he did anything to the working poor other than give them tax breaks, save the economy, and insure unemployment benefits.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:11 PM
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12. LOL! Count me in as holding my nose too, as I walk to the polls.
I don't like his centrist politics at-all. However, the very idea of getting another pig Repuke in office by voting for unelectable libs, makes me lurch! Another Repuke in office to finish off my country. No way.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:11 PM
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13. Agreed. I didn't dislike him, but I was very wary of all the hype during the campaign.
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 05:12 PM by iris27
I wasn't really thrilled with any of our '08 primary candidates, and one of the reasons I ended up mostly in Obama's camp was that his health plan did not include mandates, where Clinton's did. (Yeah, look how well that turned out.)

But anyone who talks about putting up a Dem primary challenger, or voting third party, didn't see the sick amount of party in-fighting in Missouri in 2004, which eventually resulted in the election of the total disaster Republican goveror, Matt Blunt.

I am still thrilled today that John McCain is not our president. And I will gladly vote for Obama's re-election, to deny any of today's idiot candidates a seat in the Oval Office.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:14 PM
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15. Fine, hold your nose, clutch your pearls, do whatever the fuck you need to do ... but
don't assist the Repugs in having any say whatever in the make-up of the SCOTUS.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:19 PM
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16. I forgot SCOTUS! There will probably be two seats open in the next admin...
and I'm not even sure that SCOTUS can be saved at this point...But I know for damned sure that a Perry, Cain, or Rommney court would be an evil, theological, disaster.
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:23 PM
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17. I will do likewise.
But I liked Obama, worked for him through the long primary campaign as well as the election. And I still think he's better than Hillary would have been -- but that's no bargain. He's a major disappointment and largely a disaster -- but not the complete, ignominious disaster that any Rethug would be.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:26 PM
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18. He hasn't earned my vote so I'll have to think about.
Same with Democrats in Congress, especially the Senate. So it's another vote against instead of voting for anyone. More cuts are just around the corner with the Super Committtee and "centrist" dems on that. Centrist is ptrobably the biggest lie since compassionate conservative. They're Milton Friedman Reagan Democrats. I have to pin my hopes on a few represntatives I"m contributing to such as Elizabeth Warren but without the pleasure of actually being able to vote for them. I'll also pin my hopes on the people and OWS.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:29 PM
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19. I don't agree on the "ineffective" part
he's been pretty successful at getting a moderate republican agenda passed...

I do agree with you, btw - if he's the nominee, we really have no choice but to vote for him.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:48 PM
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23. You're right about "ineffective" WS/K St. sees him as more effective than Reagan or the Bushes./nt
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:34 PM
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21. When the TPTB haven't got a viable GOP candidate, you
know they are ok with the status quo.

We won't have a real democracy until after the real crash comes & the way things look, it might be right around the corner.

It's a sad time for this country, indeed.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:54 PM
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26. That's right, the Republicans are okay with him.
That's why they've spent the last two years doing everything humanly possible to destroy him, in a level of opposition that has never previously been seen in modern political history. Oh, and that's not me who said that, it was Jimmy Carter, who knows a little something about people trying to destroy you.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 05:37 PM
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22. I drank the kool aid the first time, not again. But I 100% will vote for him! N-t
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:10 PM
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28. I'm not exactly enthused about Obama's performance so far, but then,
I wasn't expecting much when I voted for him. I'll vote for him again because I don't have another choice.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:25 PM
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30. Same here. He's got my vote in 2010 unless
Dennis Kincinch or Hillary Clinton run against him.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:17 PM
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31. I was a Hillary supporter because I thought she'd be..
more of a fighter. I'm not sure I'd support her again because of a big party rift it might cause, though I might vote for Kucinich if Obama has a big lead on his Repuke rival.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:11 PM
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29. that's nice.
:shrug:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:37 PM
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32. ...
:rofl:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:09 PM
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33.  Aren't You Special
thanks for sparing the rest of us a GOP win and for sharing your contempt for President Obama.




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