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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:16 PM
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Occupy Dallas calls for a general strike on November 30th
Then let it them be resolved by the General Assembly of Occupy Dallas through consensus on Date (___________________) that we call upon all people to engage in a General Strike on November 30th, 2011. We implore all people to:

1. Refrain from Buying or Selling any goods or services including but not limited to, any petroleum products, consumer goods or bank transactions; starting at 12:01 am to 11:59pm on November 30th, 2011.

2. Refrain from working for a wage starting at 12:01 am to 11:59pm on November 30th, 2011 excluding those individuals that provide emergency and necessary functions including but not limited to Police, Fire and Medical personnel.

3. Join or form local groups to peacefully protest against the above stated elements.

Please join us in solidarity to make known our grievances and demand substantive change to insure our future.


Whole thing at link - http://occupydallas.org/dallas-calls-general-strike-nov-30th
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:46 PM
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1. If some of these groups go on strike, they'll lose their jobs. Is that what we want?
Refrain from working for a wage starting at 12:01 am to 11:59pm on November 30th, 2011 excluding those individuals that provide emergency and necessary functions including but not limited to Police, Fire and Medical personnel.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:48 PM
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2. You realize you got the 40 hour week
Oh never mind, we have had this conversation. Unions should grovel and workers beg and we should all thank corporations.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:54 AM
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4. What part of they will be fired if they strike do you not understand?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:28 AM
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8. Social change requires both courage and sacrifice.
Dramatic and necessary social change often requires both courage and sacrifice. As it has always been.

I imagine it depends on the strength and courage of one's convictions. If you're not strong enough to deal with the consequences, then simply don't do it... :shrug:


"If some of these groups go on strike, they'll lose their jobs..."
The one does not necessarily imply the other-- merely hypothetical prognostications.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:30 PM
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9. It does if their contract or conditions of employment prohibit it.
That is certainly the case with federal firefighters and law enforcement. I can just imagine the conversation at a firefighters home when he tells his wife he was fired for going on strike, but not to worry - it was a matter of sacrifice and the courage of my convictions.

"If some of these groups go on strike, they'll lose their jobs..."
The one does not necessarily imply the other-- merely hypothetical prognostications.

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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:23 PM
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13. Because of the way the laws and judiciary are set up in this
dictatorship of capital, if it will benefit the working class to the detriment of the ruling class IT WILL BE ILLEGAL. Everybody needs to understand that going in. At some point in order to WIN this class war, you will have to do something illegal. It's inevitable.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:43 PM
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14. I believe the laws against police and firefighters striking had much more to do with public safety
than anything nefarious. I think that police officers and firefighters should be able to collectively bargain for their pay and benefits, but would agree that going out on strike should be prohibited for public safety reasons.

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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:24 PM
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16. Even in general strikes, emergency responders
have always been allowed to do their jobs. As long as they don't do them AGAINST the rest of us.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:28 PM
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18. You missed my point. Emergency responders are not permitted to become
involved in strikes because they *must* respond. In other words, be at work to respond.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:30 PM
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17. you realize that that statement is EXCLUDING police, fire and medical from the strike...
they are not being asked to take part in the strike.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:30 PM
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19. Nice catch. I just noticed that. +1
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:49 PM
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3. Good. For historic reasons less chances
But I will applaud and report.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:02 AM
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5. K&R. I think one tactic the Occupy movement should consider is
'rolling' national General Strikes, as opposed to these local affairs (first Oakland, now Dallas). Thanks to some DUer whose screen name I have now forgotten for the suggestion.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:15 AM
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6. Well good luck to Occupy Dallas, although
I'm not sure Dallas is ready for this yet. I wondered about Oakland, but I thought that one had a chance of working. Dallas, hmm, I don't know. I believe this is also the same date as the British public sector strike. Although not a general strike, several million people are expected to honor that one.

This is what we need though. International actions.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:39 PM
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10. No really central business like the port in Oakland.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:22 AM
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7. Not going to have the support to accomplish anything
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:48 PM
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11. Militancy is back...
Some will go off, some will not...and this will scare the powers that be.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:20 PM
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12. Well there you go. You're right. They don't all have to work
Just enough of them so that they don't know which ones will work.

And you're also correct about the return of militancy. Just TALKING about a general strike is progress as far as I'm concerned. It's actually the first time in my lifetime that I've heard serious talk about a general strike in this country. And I'm OLD! :)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:45 PM
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15. Yup, and from expected reactions
It is like it's always been.
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