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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:12 PM
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HIIPA prevents insurers from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions - Roe
Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 10:13 PM by Still a Democrat
Congressman Roe just claimed that on Lawrence O'Donnell. Kucinich didn't challege him.

???

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:13 PM
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1. How is that supposed to work, exactly?
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:14 PM
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2. I thought HIIPA was about patient privacy
Not sure what was meant.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:16 PM
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3. Yes, it is. So how is it supposed to prevent insurer
from denying coverage?
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:17 PM
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6. Makes no sense to me either
Thought someone could shed light.

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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:17 PM
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4. Not exactly. HIIPA says any pre-existing condition that came up before 6 months prior to employment
Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 10:17 PM by BzaDem
must be covered, and any pre-existing conditions that came up within the previous 6 months can only be excluded for 12 months.

However, this is only for the employer market. Anyone who doesn't have insurance through their job is screwed if they have a pre-existing condition, and the bill fixes that. No more exclusion periods, no more higher premiums due to conditions, no more (for anyone).
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:20 PM
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8. I didn't realize that
That's good stuff.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:17 PM
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5. Some info here:
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:18 PM
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7. It is true but only for employer based coverage and only after 6 months.
Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 10:19 PM by Statistical
So not exactly a lie but certainly a "lie by omission".

HIPPA provides no protection for individual policies.
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:24 PM
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9. He did relate it to employer coverage, in all fairness
So if employer coverage and government programs don't deny for pre-existing conditions, the dilemma remains for those trying to buy their own, I suppose.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 10:28 PM
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10. Exactly. It creates a two tier system.
Some people have very good (or at least decent) coverage and are protected from pre-existing coverage issues.

Others have horrible coverage, no PE protection, and tend to pay 200%, 300%, sometimes 500% higher rates.

Personally I think employer based coverage needs to go. It is a roadblock for universal coverage. For most people there is no health care crisis. They won't realize it till they get chronically sick, they have PE protection, employer hides the true cost of care.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:34 PM
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11. It's HIPAA.
Edited on Tue Jan-18-11 11:38 PM by Still Blue in PDX
On edit:

Never mind. It's been years since I read the whole thing and the only things that stuck were those that related to health information management and confidentiality.

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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 11:59 PM
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12. Only if you are going off COBRA from a group plan
Then, the same insurance company can't turn you down for private, individual insurance based on pre-existing condition. The trick is: you have to re-apply with a special HIPAA form. And you can't apply to just any insurance company.

But if you are just out their on your own, HIPAA can't prevent an insurance company from turning you down.

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