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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:48 AM
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You know what? I like Gloria Allred
Flame away. I don't care. She's the Honey Badger of lefty feminist lawyers - she doesn't give shit if people "like" her.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:55 AM
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1. So do I!
I was glad when I saw that she was Bialek's attorney. Allred doesn't take crap from anyone and protects her clients. The way she stays close to her clients supporting them by her presence has to help give them courage when they most need it.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:57 AM
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2. Right there with you...
And every time a DU poster trashes her work I take note of their name and sex/gender.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:10 AM
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10. Criticizing her zeal for the spotlight is not the same with trashing her...
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 10:10 AM by hlthe2b
Nor does it imply an absence of respect for her as a lawyer and for the causes she pursues. A criticism of strategies or tactics does not equate to a personal attack of the person.

But, if you wish to broadstroke and stereotype other DUers, I suppose you should feel free to add me-- a very long term feminist female that is able to see people for all their complexities--both good and bad--to your list. You'd be wrong, but.... :shrug:
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:57 AM
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3. Count me in too. She's not looking for friends or to appear
feminine, or act like a "lady." She's out to defend her client.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:59 AM
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4. She's an ambulance chaser. When I see her I cringe at the coming circus.
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bluedave Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:03 AM
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6. as are most
lawyers-she gets a thumbs up from me though.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:08 AM
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:16 AM
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13. K&R X 1000. I'm weary beyond weary of all the 'ambulance-chasing'
bullshit that we attorneys get tagged with. In more than 20 years practice I too have dedicated a great deal of time to pro bono legal work for seniors and others who would be unable to have access because they just can't pay usual legal fees, and have seen and known many colleagues who do a hell of a lot more than I do, at their own expense. As in any profession there are the incompetent, the lazy and thedownright dishonest. But as a profession we do a hell of a lot better in policing ourselves than any comparable profession. In my Bar (Michigan), cases of lawyer reprimands, discipline and disbarment are published monthly for the entire world to read and see when somebody doesn't behave ethically, and it doesn't just fall on the less well-known members of our profession, either.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:02 AM
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30. Hear frackin' hear from a fellow attorney. nt
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:58 PM
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39. i love my attorney!
she is helping me get a settlement for wrongful termination and retaliation.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:31 PM
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47. Are you kidding? Turkia Mullins still has a license after representing adverse parties on multiple
occassions, without disclosure, and without waiver.

Michigan's attorney grievance commission is a bad joke.
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:00 AM
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29. hey, my name's Dave and I'm not an idiot. an imbicle, er
umbakil I mean imbe- a moron. moron sure but I'm not no idiot. ;)

re: Gloria Alred. I think she's an attorney. She's good at attracting high profile clients. I bet she's equally good at the pro bono stuff she does. I'm sure she's a pretty good attorney in general.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:03 AM
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31. well said, and said, well, you know.
:)
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:10 AM
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12. Bull! In my experience, the people who complain the loudest about
lawyers are the first to race to them over something frivolous.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:04 PM
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41. true
and how about those of us who prepare wills, research property titles, help with traffic tickets, and lend a hand in countless other ordinary ways . . .

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:02 PM
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40. MOST lawyers are certainly NOT ambulance chasers
give me a fucking break

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:08 AM
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7. She doesn't chase - they come to her.
Thank god she is high profile so they can find her.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:18 AM
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15. Doesn't that say something about the person who seeks her?
Personally I'd be more interested in hearing what a person said without Gloria Allred by her side. Gloria Allred is my "jumped the shark" moment when the thing disintegrates into tabloid craziness.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:26 AM
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17. Yes, it says they need a serious, talented lawyer.
If she takes on their case, it also means they have a viable complaint. I bet she turns away the same percentage of cases that I turn away, mainly for the same reasons: a) you have no case. b) you REALLY have no case. c) This is not my specialty.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:29 AM
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18. No.
But it does say something about you.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:38 AM
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21. LOL, a much better answer than mine.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:53 AM
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24. I agree with the UK Guardian.
Gloria Allred, like bedbugs, could only flourish in America

Now one could make the argument that Allred is a lawyer to cherish, one who defends women who have been, in various ways, treated badly by powerful men. For example, she represented Nicole Brown Simpson's family during the OJ Simpson trial, as well as Rhonda Simpson, who accused Arnold Schwarzenegger of sexual harassment in 2003 (that case was dismissed.)

One could make that argument, yes. It would be a lot easier to make that argument if Allred didn't turn her press conferences into circuses and come off as the Kris Jenner of the legal world, seeming to use other women as a launchpad to get herself into the spotlight. This tendency of hers was on full show on Monday when Allred held her press conference, representing the fourth woman to accuse Herman Cain of sexual harassment, but the only one to give up her anonymity. Leaving aside the fact that it sounded very much like what this woman should accuse Cain of was sexual assault rather than harassment, Allred was at her most Allredian, making ridiculous lewd-laden comments, each one taking her and her client further step down the moral high ground.

"Mr Cain decided to try to provide her with his idea of a stimulus package," Allred said, possibly waggling a cigar and raising an eyebrow.

So to mark today's Allred experience, here are some more of Gloria's Greatest Moments:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/hadley-freeman-blog/2011/nov/08/gloria-allred-greatest-moments?newsfeed=true
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 AM
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26. Starting with a giant lie like this:
"like bedbugs, could only flourish in America"

is a reason not to read another word of your ignorant article.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 AM
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28. That, too.
Thank you.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:11 AM
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33. Oh but you are missing some great video of past press conferences, like the one with Anthony Weiners
Porn Star textee, or "Tale of the Tiger: The Mistress Collection". That is honestly how she introduced her client.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 AM
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27. "the only one to give up her anonymity"
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 11:01 AM by redqueen
If you'd care to copy the list of the Very Bad Things Ms. Allred has done, which supposedly justify being traeted so differently, more people may see the list.

I doubt I'm the only one who was put off bothering to click the link to read any more from that writer, after realizing that they're apparently too stupid to be able to understand that two of the accusers actually can't just 'give up their anonymity'.

Also, is this actually an editorial from the editorial board, or is there a name attached? If there's a name then you aren't agreeing with The "UK" Guardian, you're agreeing with that writer.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:47 AM
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35. That isn't The Guardian, it's a columnist there
The columnist's opinions are her own.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:55 PM
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37. Thanks. I figured as much.
:hi:
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:12 PM
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36.  I would infer that the client wishes to win.
"Doesn't that say something about the person who seeks her?"

I would infer that it says the client wishes to win. You may of course infer something different-- we often see what better validates our own biases.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:08 AM
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9. I haven't seen a single sign of a circus on this one. In fact, I
thought the press conference was pretty dignified.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:13 AM
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34. I agree
I think it's exploitation.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:00 AM
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5. oprah has done nothing, to no one. jsut say the womans name and men start yelling.
geeez, for that matter, just the fact i post the way i do, the same happens with SOME men.

SOME men do not like women speaking up and out
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:30 AM
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19. I can't help but think that's a big part of it. She's a woman.
I can't think of any male lawyer whom I've seen get the same treatment that Allred did yesterday here.

Maybe she's just the worst lawyer in the world right now, so that makes it not sexist.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:48 AM
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23. she is a woman that speaks out standing up for women, challenging male privilege
gotta get it all in. as oprah is a woman that stands up and speaks out for women authenticity.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 08:43 AM
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53. Oprah pushes woo.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 08:45 AM by JoeyT
And victim blaming woo at that.

Allred on the other hand consistently fights for women. Even poor ones, and against men no less. Can't have that.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:10 AM
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11. K&R for "the Honey Badger of Lefty Feminist Lawyers."
Love it.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:16 AM
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14. She helped Jerry Brown win.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 10:18 AM by tabatha
That's good enough for me.

Edit: And yesterday on a rare watch of CNN waiting for the presser, I heard Jeffrey Toobin say good words about her. She was always prepared; she covered the bases.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:19 AM
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16. Gloria Allred has had quite a career - mostly prosecuting sexual harrassment/abuse cases
through her work with her private law firm. None of it in the public eye. She's a smart cookie, an advocate for women and I would certainly want her in my corner. Unfortunately her high profile cases have labeled her a celebrity lawyer.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:30 AM
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20. If Rush Slimeball despises and loathes her
which he has for a long time, hell she can't be all bad.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:46 AM
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22. I sometimes disagree with her on some of her cases and with some of her comments
But I suspect that would be the same with most lawyers.

She's an outspoken, courageous progressive of integrity and she almost consistently champions whom she perceives to be the underdog. What's not to like?
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:59 AM
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25. I can't stand Gloria Allred!
She's a media whore and who could forget this?

LA Attorney, Gloria Allred, Files a Complaint re: Harrison Death Certificate
Written by AVRev.com
Friday, 14 December 2001

Beatles fans and music enthusiasts worldwide have been mourning the loss of Beatle guitarist, George Harrison, to lung cancer on November 29, 2001. Harrison denied up until the very end, that he was ill in order to protect his privacy. Now a high-power Los Angeles attorney, Gloria Alread is mysteriously trying to stir up the muck.

The issue of the complaint is over some of the fine details of Harrison’s death as it relates to his death certificate, specifically the physical location of his death. The idea of falsifying information on a death certificate isn’t a punishable offense unless it is designed to cause larger crime like insurance fraud plus it requires someone to actually care enough to actually file the complaint. Alread claims, according to the ArrowFM.com story, that she made the complaint to the L.A.P.D. merely because she was concerned that the "integrity of public records is at stake."

"Celebrities and/or their supporters are not above the law, even if they are acting with good intentions, for example, to protect the privacy of loved ones," she said.

"All things must pass, but not this," she quipped following her statement.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:04 AM
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32. I do, too. No flames here.
:hi:
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:56 PM
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38. I like her too. Whats not to like?
she's very serious about her job and does well at it. I guess that's ambulance chasing to some but results are results and she gets her good share of good results.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:04 PM
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42. I don't. She's an attention seeker, and the most dangerous thing you could ever do...
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 04:06 PM by truebrit71
..is get caught between Gloria Allread and a live microphone...

Every time she gets involved in a case it becomes about HER and not the case/cause of her client...
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:06 PM
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43. I admire her too
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:06 PM
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44. KnR.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:10 PM
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45. Years ago I was thinking of working for her
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 04:11 PM by KamaAina
I knew some people in the feminist/clinic defense movement who knew her, and I was desperate for a job. (Research is a specialty.)

Of course, that was around the time she first came into the public eye. It was beginning to look like she'd jumped the shark, until this came along.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:23 PM
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46. K&R
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:33 PM
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48. She's a "celebrity lawyer" with all the good, and bad, that that entails.
You don't hire her to keep your story out of the media, that's for sure, so in that sense, Allred is more like a PR agent than an attorney.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:38 PM
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49. Real lawyers don't work, win cases, or accomplish anything else in front of television cameras
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 04:39 PM by jberryhill
I understand that people think these art performances have some sort of relationship to actually representing clients.

Cases are won or lost on what goes on in courtrooms, arbitration panels, and settlement negotiations.

What Gloria Allred does is not lawyering, it is press agency.

Is she representing this woman in some sort of case against Herman Cain? No.

What, specifically, is her role in this matter?

If your lawyer is on a TV talk show discussing your case, fire him/her. Period.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:41 PM
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50. Herman Cain's most vicious opponent
Love it! Go Honey Badger!!!

:kick:
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:07 PM
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51. She's currently kicking ass on Lawrence O'Donnell.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 10:18 PM
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52. If she could only change her name to Allblue
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