I am learning from his responses that right wingnuts first and foremost FEAR that someone, somewhere might be taking a break from work, and that they LOVE the successful, have disdain for the weak and helpless, and ADORE the Commies versus the U.S. McCarthyist argument.
I pasted his responses to me. I didn't paste my comments, because I'm sure you can imagine what I've been saying to him. Tell me if you think this a-h is a 'moderate.' I think perhaps he might be slightly moderate in a Nazi system.
RESPONSE 1: "I just defend a system that WORKS. Is it perfect? No. Are mistakes made? Crimes committed? Yes. But those things need to be addressed as they occur and corrected or punished as appropriate. Socialism does not work, not in the long run. You need only look at what is happening in Europe to see where it leads. Too much taking from the haves to give to the have-nots leads only to disincentive to work. If everyone is guaranteed a middle class income and lifestyle, why work for it. If I could have my income without working for it I would take it in a minute. Of course we end with Greece and it all collapses under us."
RESPONSE 2: "Paul Krugman? The man is an absolute idiot and a shill for every far left idea to ever come out of moron heaven. And so many of those .1% he talks about are left wing idiots. Their money goes to support your causes.
http://biggovernment.com/dmitchell/2010/04/07/ultra-rich-leftists-want-to-atone-for-their-guilt-by-paying-higher-taxes-and-they-want-to-impose-their-neurotic-views-on-the-rest-of-us/ "
RESPONSE 3: "This is a wonderful example of just what is wrong with this whole anti-corporate/anti-capitalist movement. He speaks of large companies as if they were rich and powerful individuals…with no understanding of what they actually are. One example, put the question “Who owns General Electric?” in ASK.com. Here is the “best” answer:
_Answers dwight.k.schrute: General Electric is a huge company! In fact, it's one of the biggest
_single corporations in the world and it is comprised of many smaller business and brands. The
_company is not owned by a single person, but rather owned by a vast number of individuals. Each
_individual owns stock in the company. Stock is divided into shares, each worth a dollar amount.
_All of the shares of GM in the world add up to the total value of the corporation: billions of dollars.
Thousands and thousands and thousands of people, maybe millions, are owner of GE. The stock is part of their mutual funds, retirement plans, pension plans, brokerage accounts and so on. If GE makes a profit, it is paid to these millions of owners in dividends and increased value of the stock at sale. The same is true of all the other companies mentioned. People invest their money in a company in the hopes that it WILL do well and they will profit from the investment. Why is that a bad thing?"
RESPONSE 4: "And pay taxes on it. Twice. Corporate taxes and Capital Gains if selling at a gain. Thought you were all about taxes."
RESPONSE 5: "Do you forget that I am a licensed Financial Advisor? A stockbroker? I know that is not true. Yes, rich people own lots of stock, and bonds too. But so do most of us in the middle class. If you have a 401K or a corp retirement plan, you do as well."
RESPONSE 6: "The American Nazi party has endorsed the Occupy Wall St movement. Thus my ref to Germany in 1936. Do a search for Anti Semitism and Occupy Wall street and you will find lots like this:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/07/anti-semitism-at-occupy-wall-street/ Where is the left wing outrage? With Jesse Jackson going to Himeytown I guess."
RESPONSE 7: "Not sure I understand the point. I have never argued against taxes, Duties, or any of that. I do argue against using taxes to punish success and that excessive taxes are self defeating by actually resulting in lower revenues."
RESPONSE 8: "I know, the system is this country is so bad that no one in the rest of the world wants to come here and Americans are fleeing as quickly as they can, rafting to Cuba, tunneling to Canada, crossing the deserts to get to Mexico...."
RESPONSE 9: "That's why we have elections though, right. All sides put forth their ideas and the country votes for those who most represent their own feelings, thoughts, and inclinations. I think it is a wonderful system with most Americans somewhere in the middle with me. The pendulum swings slightly right and slightly left but seldom does it swing widely. After watching Obama, Reid, and Pelosi, I think most Americans realize that they went too far left and are now correcting...as the most recent elections have shown."
RESPONSE 10: "Sigh. I am actually quite moderate. From where I sit on the political spectrum, I easily see the excesses of both the right and left and very much like the middle ground that has served this country so well. Too far right and we end up with Fascism, too far left and we have radical Socialism and Communism. Either way, you end with an evil group of elites trying to forcibly impose their views and their rule on the majority. Your problem is that you are so far left that even a moderate appears far right to you. Looking left of yourself, what extremes do you see there?"
RESPONSE 11: "Right of what? You act as if there are only two positions on any issue one extreme left and one extreme right. That is not the real world. There is a continuum of opinion, a bell curve of positions with most of us falling somewhere in the middle. For you, anything right of the extreme left is extreme right. That is not the case in the real world. You speak of conscience and compassion, yet your conscience seems to allow you to take from those who earn what they have through hard work, sweat, tears, and risk and give to those who do nothing. You don't understand or acknowledge that effort should be rewarded, you feel that success is somehow a sign of cheating. That one man's or woman's success is at the expense of another. You refuse to see that personal responsibility is a concept that built this nation into the best one on this planet."
RESPONSE 12: "What a bunch of idiots and morons. At least they have the support the the Nazis:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-nazi-party-throws-support-behind-occupy-wall-street-movement/"
RESPONSE 13: "Using the statement of one to discredit an entire movement is a left wing tactic, used to no avail to try to stop the Tea Party movement...you just don't like it when it cuts the other way."
RESPONSE 14: "LOL. Maybe unrealistic would be a better choie of word. Like most liberals, you look as the world and say "this is how things SHOULD be." Problem is, that is not how the world works, the ideas have been tried over and over and always failed. Unfortunately, a lot of people have died as the left's fanatics have tried to impose their vision on others. Those who work for "the good of the masses" or "the good of the state" always see in that an excuse to suppress individual rights and liberties."
RESPONSE 15: "No, Republicans are about fairness. You are all about redistribution of wealth, taking from those who have and giving to those that don't. A good analogy would be a redistributionist teacher, and as a former teacher I think this will get my point across. In each classroom there are a variety of students with different drives and abilities. You have those who are just naturally bright, quick to learn, participate in everything and do well without seeming to try. Then you have those who are maybe not as naturally quick, but who work very hard to compensate and also do very well grade wise. There are those in the middle who could do better but do just enough to get by. And then you have those that just don't care, are only there sucking air because they have to be. Now, were you a redistributionist teacher? Did you take grades from those that did well an earned them and give the points to those who didn't? Did everyone end up with a C so all was fair? If you were to do that, what do you think would happen to those who worked so hard to achieve?"
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